elvis15, on 18 September 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:
So with those stats, do you have sources to back that up? Particularly about points 1, 3, 5. How do you know the average hockey viewer in the US fits the median income profile? How do you know they in particular haven't gone on and taken some sort of post secondary education, or that the majority haven't? Do you have any proof that they or any other NHL'er hasn't taken the same education you have to work in the same industry after they're careers are done and could compete with you?
That's not even the point. the point is you've come here and posted a thread on CDC about how three hockey players blocked you when you tried to "educate" them on how they're being spoiled brats in this, and you came to the conclusion that you got in their heads.
My point is this, and it's supported somewhat by your lack of simple internet knowledge (Twitter is public!), they get so many tweets that they probably hardly glanced at what you sent, saw uneducated, spoiled brats, etc, etc, and blocked you right along with all the other nutjobs that text them much worse things.
My opinion is this, they were right to do so, especially when you've done nothing but prove your as condescending and elitist or even more than you're making them out to be. You've made assumptions about me without knowing anything about how much I make or what I do, but you've tried to spell it out in every post and on your Twitter account that you clearly think you're above the "median income" fan that you're trying to use in your argument for why the players are so bad.
Get off your high horse and take a step back, you'll realize how bad you sound and how stupid this whole topic actually is. If you want to discuss the issues around the CBA and the lockout, there's a 33 page thread
dedicated to it.
If you want to act like the republicans and just make up stuff to support your arguments fine. If you want to have an intelligent conversation there are some things you have to just realize you are not going to win in a debate here son.
2. If you understand statistics, you'd realize I am probably being generous suggesting the average fan makes the median income in the US, if you don't understand that point, take a course at a university in stats.
3. Most players in the NHL have not come from the college route, that is a fact. And again, you may want to hypothesize that somehow the majority of these guys are taking summer classes at universities, then following along to do their masters but ok...sure buddy.
4. Point about competing is about now. You really don't get the nuances of arguments do you. What is their alternative at this point? If they had no hockey to play, no millions from playing a sport, what exactly would they do tomorrow? Not suggesting they couldn't compete if they had the education and experience I do, point is they DON'T and they are complaining making millions.
I really don't quite understand how people are suggesting that people making millions crying poor is not disingenuous and insulting to the fans.
But ok, thats your opinion good on ya.
P.S wasn't trying to educate, was sending a message about being thankful and appreciative for what the game has provided them, something Mr. Gretzky and some of the greats who respected the game and fans understood.
But I guess in today's gen Y narcisstic world, and clearly I am arguing with a group of them, its me first, fu ck the rest and take what I can, when I can. I also do not believe I am above anybody son. I make a terrific living, and am appreciative for it, and that was my point to them, don't bite the hand that feeds you. Appreciate when you've been fortunate and part of that involves respecting the thing that provided that fortunate circumstance, since many, many in this world are not so fortunate. And when those who are less fortunate than you, are actually the ONEs creating that wealth, you have even MORE of a responsibility to respect it.
I know many of you can't comprehend that, that respecting that source of your success matters. You think being good hockey players, working hard as kids was the source of their success?
Their MATERIAL success is all due to people making 50k, taking their kid to a game, the people working the concessions, parking, marketing, to increase revenues, to ensure they get paid 5 mill vs 500 a game.
That's the part you just won't see and accept, and nor will they, instead it's all about how good they are. Well if people didn't care to part with their money, it wouldnt matter, and they wouldn't be so rich would they?
So who makes them wealthy? the fans? or themselves? Answer that and perhaps they will learn some respect for the game.
Edited by BuretoMogilny, 19 September 2012 - 12:02 AM.