oldnews Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Relative to the variance in players, that is correct. Antti Niemi has a Stanley Cup. Chris Osgood has 3. How many do Roberto Luongo or Henrik Lundqvist have? And if you care to debate me, you'll need to use stronger support than weak attempts at being funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intoewsables Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Jensen should definately be higher up - he's already had success in the AHL playoffs with 4 goals in 6 games which is remarkable, and his game is built for the NHL. I'm also surprised Gaunce didn't get a mention. Mistake me if I'm wrong, but he was the 2nd best center to go at this last NHL draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Are you really using a 6 game sample size to prove your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 What's the upside? Is he somehow going to beat out Lack, Schneider, and Luongo, and become the Canucks' starter? Odds of that happening would probably need to be set at about 1%. Far better strategy to take a flyer on a skater, given the strength that we have in goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 You have no idea whether Cannata will make the team in the future. To assume he won't - based upon what? - is as dumb as thinking that being on that list is a sure-fire ticket to the NHL - and yes, it would be reason to doubt your credibility if you had established any. Everyone knows there are low round and undrafted players playing in the NHL, some of them marquis players, and there are plenty of prominent first round, even first overall picks who turned out to be duds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Oh no, I spelled some guys name wrong who will almost certainly never don a Canucks jersey. There goes my credibility. And I'm not whining, but it's a stupid pick. Explain to me the logic in taking a goaltender when you've already got 2 of the top-10 starters under contract, one of them until 2022, and another young guy with a lot of hype currently starting in the AHL. It's a wasted pick. Like I said before, the smarter strategy would've been to take a skater, someone with a higher probability of being useful to the Vancouver Canucks some day. Seriously, Joe...Cannata ( ) honestly think that he has a chance at making this team, can he? Joke about it all you want, it's kinda true, isn't it? I'm pretty sure that had all of those 5 guys been mentioned in this list, it somehow would've been thought-of as more credible around these parts. I guess we'll see if there's any cause for alarm once the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 That 26 year-old Cory Schneider guy might have something to do with it. Or even that 24 year-old Eddie Lack guy, if he's as good as what people are saying. Are you suggesting that Joe Cannata's going to sweep in to camp and bump himself up to the top spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 Laughable. Chris Osgood - last Stanley Cup - 14 wins, 4 losses, .930 sv %, and 1.55 goals against. I guess that wouldn't make a difference though would it. Go back 15 years to his second Cup (his first was as a backup) and his numbers were still excellent - .918 sv %. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 That 26 year-old Cory Schneider guy might have something to do with it. Or even that 24 year-old Eddie Lack guy, if he's as good as what people are saying. Are you suggesting that Joe Cannata's going to sweep in to camp and bump himself up to the top spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 Goalies can be traded? Injuries happen, goalies fall off, stuff happens....... but I guess we should have picked another Mario Bliznak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Anybody can get hot for an 18-game stretch. The point is that Osgood was always thought-of as the weak point of the Wings, and he was paid accordingly. That's why he didn't have nearly as much success on St. Louis or Long Island. The NHL is a skater's game. Why is Pittsburgh though-of as a perennial contender? Is it because of Crosby, or is it because of Fleury? And before you bring up Jonathan Quick, please look up and down LA's roster and try to find me a weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Or a Kevin Bieksa, or a Jannik Hansen, or a Sergei Shirokov, or a Matt Cooke, or a Brent Sopel, or a Scott Walker, or an Adrian Aucoin, or a Pavel Bure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 What's the upside? Is he somehow going to beat out Lack, Schneider, and Luongo, and become the Canucks' starter? Odds of that happening would probably need to be set at about 1%. Far better strategy to take a flyer on a skater, given the strength that we have in goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 It's 8 actually he had 6 goals in 8 games with the wolves including 2 in the playoffs. But yes, a small sample size and he has yet to register a point in the SEL. He should still be higher on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Bo7 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 75% of that list won't turn into the superstars they were projected to be. Being a top ranked prospect doesn't mean anything, other than the fact you were drafted high. We've got lots of gems, that for people who don't follow this team, won't even know how good they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 Guys that never would have made your silly little list? You just undermined your whining and panic that there aren't enough Canucks on that list, didn't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Oh no, I spelled some guys name wrong who will almost certainly never don a Canucks jersey. There goes my credibility. And I'm not whining, but it's a stupid pick. Explain to me the logic in taking a goaltender when you've already got 2 of the top-10 starters under contract, one of them until 2022, and another young guy with a lot of hype currently starting in the AHL. It's a wasted pick. Like I said before, the smarter strategy would've been to take a skater, someone with a higher probability of being useful to the Vancouver Canucks some day. Seriously, Joe...Cannata ( ) honestly think that he has a chance at making this team, can he? Joke about it all you want, it's kinda true, isn't it? I'm pretty sure that had all of those 5 guys been mentioned in this list, it somehow would've been thought-of as more credible around these parts. I guess we'll see if there's any cause for alarm once the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Meh, it will all come as a nice surprise to everyone when the Canucks' prospects show more than what others believe they are capable. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Stamkos Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I don't know how Dumba and Rielly are ahead of Murray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmotamed Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 If there are 100 prospects on this list, and 30 teams, shouldn't we have like, at least 3 on that list? I mean, that's just if we were keeping up with the average... Doesn't look too good on our part! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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