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#1 Tystick

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 01:11 AM

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I watched these videos and it pretty much summed up that the entire thing was fraudulent. Don't believe me? Watch these:






^This one is good

Very interesting. Makes one start to question the other attacks as well.

Edited by Tystick, 22 September 2012 - 10:04 AM.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 01:13 AM

Your a couple weeks late.
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 01:18 AM

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 01:24 AM

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 01:30 AM

Oh, Truthers... :picard:
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 01:31 AM

The title of that 2nd video...
No, the plane was a figment of everyones imagination :picard:
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 02:38 AM

I don't think anyone doubts that Bush was Machiavellian enough to pull it off but it doesn't necessarily make it true. I think it was tower 9 in New York which crumbled on it's own with no relation to either World Trade tower. I found that more convincing than what was clearly a projectile of some sort with a definite hit on the side on the Pentagon.

Bush may well be a war criminal but I highly doubt any of this was self inflicted.
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 05:01 AM

I would be disgusted if it were fraudulent. And I keep telling myself that people wouldn't do that sort of thing to their own fellow citizens, but in today's world I wouldn't put it past them.

Anyway, I doubt we'll ever know.
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 07:49 AM

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The impossible collapse of WTC 7 and the absurd Bin Laden capture and ultra fast ocean dump says it all about 911.

From start to finish everything about that day is fraudulent.
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 08:12 AM

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Are we still doing this? Wow.

You conspiracists are giving the US government WAY too much credit. The logistics needed to pull off such a huge conspiracy is basically impossible. No government or agency in the world could pull that off and would be stupid to risk it. Makes 0 sense.

There is no way to be sure how buildings react to jet liners crashing into them. It doesn't happen often and even if it did, every crash will have new factors not being able to take into consideration.

Bottom line is theorists are just filling in the blanks with what they want. We could sit here and do that all day, assuming its fact when it's not. This conspiracy makes 0 sense to attempt and would be impossible to pull off.

The government and the agencies connected to it simply don't have the ability to successfully mount such an operation. As well again it makes absolutely 0 sense. Same government thought there were WMD in Iraq and couldn't even get that intel right. And you think they could pull this off?

Keep dreaming.




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Posted 22 September 2012 - 08:15 AM

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 08:18 AM

First video makes sense as at 5:10, you can clearly see a bunker-buster/tomahawk. Anyone who says something that small is a 737 probably tips the wallet inspector as well :picard: :lol:
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 08:49 AM

First video makes sense as at 5:10, you can clearly see a bunker-buster/tomahawk. Anyone who says something that small is a 737 probably tips the wallet inspector as well :picard: :lol:


The Pentagon is just over 77 feet tall and a 737 at the top of the tail is just over 41 feet tall leaving the fuselage closer to 30 feet in height. The dimensions work our actually.

Now...I'm going to need to inspect that wallet.
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 09:09 AM


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Posted 22 September 2012 - 09:30 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8

Bingo.

Another conspiracy theory that just won't die.

I get people have a mistrust for government, that's not unnatural, but this is taking that mistrust to some really stupid extremes. ^ That's the kind of proof you have to overlook to believe that the Pentagon was not hit by a plane.

A missile that pinballed off a handful of light poles knocking them down while hitting the Pentagon? Yeah, a likely story. I bet it wasn't a plane, nor was it pinballing around off light poles.. it was government that bulldozed the light poles over, or set off a device to knock them all over right? How far do you have to reach, and how much proof do you need to flat out ignore for this conspiracy to make sense?

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 09:47 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8


Thanks for the post Heretic!
Puts a fresh perspective in my mind.
I myself just want to know the truth and that video explained a lot.

Edited by Tystick, 22 September 2012 - 10:10 AM.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 10:09 AM



This video is much more informative by an ex-military general, as well as top military and commercial pilots.
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 10:13 AM

Nice find Heretic! I think people don't understand speed and the physics of impact. This is why people get killed on highways because they underestimate the risks and don't get the concept the faster you go, the longer it takes to stop, and the handling is more touchy. Modern aircraft with its amazing engineering the primary component of the structure is aluminum. So in essence you're sitting in a flying beer can, with fuel and engines in the wings.

Back in 1979 American Airlines Flight 191 had an engine fall off shortly after take off, damaging the wing, and some of the electrical and hydraulic systems. The result is the aircraft stalled and impacted the ground at about 300 km/h. The impact site was clearly seen, but the plane looked like it was vaporized. The Pentagon was lucky, if the aircraft attacked at a high angle and a higher speed there might have been a lot more severe damage.

Here's pictures of Flight 191. You can read about it on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_191

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 10:24 AM

Nice find Heretic! I think people don't understand speed and the physics of impact. This is why people get killed on highways because they underestimate the risks and don't get the concept the faster you go, the longer it takes to stop, and the handling is more touchy. Modern aircraft with its amazing engineering the primary component of the structure is aluminum. So in essence you're sitting in a flying beer can, with fuel and engines in the wings.

Back in 1979 American Airlines Flight 191 had an engine fall off shortly after take off, damaging the wing, and some of the electrical and hydraulic systems. The result is the aircraft stalled and impacted the ground at about 300 km/h. The impact site was clearly seen, but the plane looked like it was vaporized. The Pentagon was lucky, if the aircraft attacked at a high angle and a higher speed there might have been a lot more severe damage.

Here's pictures of Flight 191. You can read about it on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_191

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Don't use logic!

They can't handle it :shock:
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 10:26 AM

Are we still doing this? Wow.

You conspiracists are giving the US government WAY too much credit. The logistics needed to pull off such a huge conspiracy is basically impossible. No government or agency in the world could pull that off and would be stupid to risk it. Makes 0 sense.

There is no way to be sure how buildings react to jet liners crashing into them. It doesn't happen often and even if it did, every crash will have new factors not being able to take into consideration.

Bottom line is theorists are just filling in the blanks with what they want. We could sit here and do that all day, assuming its fact when it's not. This conspiracy makes 0 sense to attempt and would be impossible to pull off.

The government and the agencies connected to it simply don't have the ability to successfully mount such an operation. As well again it makes absolutely 0 sense. Same government thought there were WMD in Iraq and couldn't even get that intel right. And you think they could pull this off?

Keep dreaming.


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Posted 22 September 2012 - 10:27 AM

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Seriously are we still doing this?
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 10:32 AM

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Oh so you're one of those crazy people too who believe it was an inside job.

All makes sense now..
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 10:38 AM

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 10:39 AM

Ok, ok, I admit it, it was me all along...

I'm sorry...
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 10:40 AM

Oh so you're one of those crazy people too who believe it was an inside job.

All makes sense now..


That's just ignorant. You really think the government always tells the truth?
There is evidence above, and yet you mindlessly pass it up.
Being open-minded isn't crazy.
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 10:44 AM

Oh so you're one of those crazy people too who believe it was an inside job.

All makes sense now..


That paragraph did not make sense to me one iota! I didn't say I believe it is an inside job or not but I like how you just assume that am one of those "crazy" people. With one emoticon you quickly believe and assume that am the "crazy conspiracist" and it is probably how you quickly believed that 9/11 isn't an inside job with just one video.
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 10:48 AM

That's just ignorant. You really think the government always tells the truth?
There is evidence above, and yet you mindlessly pass it up.
Being open-minded isn't crazy.


You're relatively new to CDC, but we've had this whole 9-11 inside job discussion for almost a decade. And it was debunked then, and it'll be de-bunked now.

You may have to understand that many folks here are tired of refuting the same bull$#@! over and over again. Some will though, but some won't.

But, by all means, carry on, if you think you've found some new evidence or argument.
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 10:57 AM

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You're relatively new to CDC, but we've had this whole 9-11 inside job discussion for almost a decade. And it was debunked then, and it'll be de-bunked now.

You may have to understand that many folks here are tired of refuting the same bull$#@! over and over again. Some will though, but some won't.

But, by all means, carry on, if you think you've found some new evidence or argument.


No offense, but having theories "debunked" on CDC actually made me laugh. I mean, this is the most hated forum that is occupied by mostly elementary and high school students and children. I would not trust CDC, a hockey forum that has a bad reputation across the internet world (not just the hockey world) as the most immature forum. Anything debunked here, should be considered invalid. Its not like it is a forum with highly intellectual people discussing politics, current events and other problems in the world intelligently. You, me and everyone else gets their knowledge of what they know very little about from other obscure internet sources and try to pass it on like they are an expert on the issue. Somethings could be validated easily, other things need insider knowledge. So it is all speculations and home made videos that we are basing everything on.
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 10:59 AM

It doesn't matter whether it was an inside job or not. For that date 9/11, all that mattered was the innocent people who died.

Rest in peace.


Onto my views on conspiracy theories. I used to be a mad believer in conspiracy theories. I realized there isn't much to take out of it. People are ugly, and if the theories are true, I would not be surprised that the government or whoever did it. I mean everyone plan their lives, so in essence, every major company or government is highly likely to plan their stuff..for the better or worse of people, who knows. I for one can see that citizens are merely numbers to politicians. The main point i want to get across is, both sides of a conspiracy theory, the theorists and the anti-theorists, have such a compelling argument that it's hard to even decide whos right. So to that, I would say just drop it and not worry about stuff that do no affect you.

My question to OP is, you are a believer that 9/11 is an inside job, what will you do about it? Will you live in fear because you believe that the government would sacrifice citizens for their own personal agenda?

100% agree with Pouria, "Somethings could be validated easily"

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 11:01 AM

You're relatively new to CDC, but we've had this whole 9-11 inside job discussion for almost a decade. And it was debunked then, and it'll be de-bunked now.

You may have to understand that many folks here are tired of refuting the same bull$#@! over and over again. Some will though, but some won't.

But, by all means, carry on, if you think you've found some new evidence or argument.


True. I never thought about that before.
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