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#121 Kass9

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:37 AM

The only thing dumber than a women having facial hair, is having facial hair because of "her faith"


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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:38 AM

:lol: Oh man....... I don't even know where to begin with this. :lol:


What didn't go over your head in my post (miniscule amount) obviously didn't penetrate your cranium, either.

And please don't put words in my mouth,........unless, of course, you're using a generalized 'you/you're/your'. But you know what they say about generalizations, right?


Please begin anywhere. I'd love to hear a argument that contends that society tolerates any sort of behavior instead of the norms of society, which is what occurs today.

We are talking about norms of a society; this is different than racism, where a person is judged on who he is. This is an example of a person being judged for his/her choices, which occurs on a regular basis. Not saying it's right, but it is what happens.

Also, I was specifically referring to you, and not putting words in your mouth, but making assumptions to things you would find disgusting, unless you don't find a person picking their nose disgusting. If you don't, I'd happily retract that statement.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:41 AM

Are you ready to get flamed by CDC?

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:50 AM

Are you ready to get flamed by CDC?


Sorry if the truth offends you
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:11 AM

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A person is born with 2 extra fingers on their hand and surgery is available to remove the extra digits. This person CHOOSES – for whatever reason - not to have the surgery because that’s how they were born. OMG, " What she is doing is just nasty". People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

A person is born missing their leg below the thigh and the stump is horribly misshapen. Prosthetic limbs are available but the person CHOOSES - for whatever reason - not to use one or have surgery to correct the shape of the stump because that’s how they were born. OMG, "What she is doing is just nasty". People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

A person is born with a massive port wine birthmark down the side of their face and treatment is available to lighten or remove the birthmark. This person CHOOSES – for whatever reason - not to have the treatment because that’s how they were born. OMG, "What she is doing is just nasty". People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

A person is born with a condition that causes them excessive hair growth . Treatment is available to curb the hair growth , electrolysis is available to remove what is already there. They CHOOSE - for whatever reason - not to have treatment for the condition because they were born that way. OMG, "What she is doing is just nasty". People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

Balpreet Kaur did not have a choice in having the condition she has which causes excessive hair growth. Instead of bowing to the stunted and immature opinions of people who it seems have nothing better to do than ridicule her and call her decision to accept her body the way it is nasty, she has embraced who she is , flying strong and confident in the face of immature boys and men who seem to think this affects their life in some way. Perhaps these immature and ignorant individuals should consider what they would do if it were their sister, wife, mother or daughter with this condition. And respect their possible choice not to have treatment in order to please an aesthetic that some in society have that their appearance isn’t acceptable. It’s just ‘nasty’, right?

Edited by Bertuzzi Babe, 27 September 2012 - 11:19 AM.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:17 AM

A person is born with 2 extra fingers on their hand and surgery is available to remove the extra digits. This person CHOOSES – for whatever reason - not to have the surgery because that’s how they were born. OMG, how nasty. People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

A person is born missing their leg below the thigh and the stump is horribly misshapen. Prosthetic limbs are available but the person CHOOSES - for whatever reason - not to use one or have surgery to correct the shape of the stump because that’s how they were born. OMG, how nasty. People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

A person is born with a massive port wine birthmark down the side of their face and treatment is available to lighten or remove the birthmark. This person CHOOSES – for whatever reason - not to have the treatment because that’s how they were born. OMG, how nasty. People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

A person is born with a condition that causes them excessive hair growth . Treatment is available to curb the hair growth , electrolysis is available to remove what is already there. They CHOOSE - for whatever reason - not to have treatment for the condition because they were born that way. OMG, how nasty. People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

Balpreet Kaur did not have a choice in having the condition she has which causes excessive hair growth. Instead of bowing to the stunted and immature opinions of people who it seems have nothing better to do than ridicule her and call her decision to accept her body the way it is nasty, she has embraced who she is , flying strong and confident in the face of immature boys and men who seem to think this affects their life in some way. Perhaps these immature and ignorant individuals should consider what they would do if it were their sister, wife, mother or daughter with this condition. And respect their possible choice not to have treatment in order to please an aesthetic that some in society have that their appearance isn’t acceptable. It’s just ‘nasty’, right?


Do you believe that it's only men who have made fun of her for having facial hair?
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:19 AM

BB's post: ^ ^ ^ This says all that needs saying on each individuals RIGHT to make their own decisions in this "free" society we are lucky enough to live in .. anyone who takes a personal "offense" at someone's choice of personal expression, because it does not fit the "norm", should catch up to the 21st century .. come on, folks!! .. you are lagging behind here!!! ..

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:22 AM

BB's post: ^ ^ ^ This says all that needs saying on each individuals RIGHT to make their own decisions in this "free" society we are lucky enough to live in .. anyone who takes a personal "offense" at someone's choice of personal expression, because it does not fit the "norm", should catch up to the 21st century .. come one, folks!! .. you are lagging behind here!!! ..


It's not about taking offense. Those who have ridiculed her are unlikely to be offended from her facial hair, her choice to keep it, or her reasons for justifying them. It's about seeing something different and using that as a way to marginalize the person. They are just immature and bullies, I don't think it's any deeper than that.
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:26 AM

of·fense (Posted Image-fPosted ImagensPosted Image)n.
1.
a. The act of causing anger, resentment, displeasure, or affront.
b. The state of being offended.
2.
a. A violation or infraction of a moral or social code; a transgression or sin.

b. A transgression of law; a crime.
3. Something that outrages moral sensibilities



of·fend (Posted Image-fPosted ImagendPosted Image)
of·fend·ed, of·fend·ing, of·fends

1. To cause displeasure, anger, resentment, or wounded feelings in.

2. To be displeasing or disagreeable to

a. To transgress; violate: offend all laws of humanity.
b. To cause to sin.
v.intr.
1. To result in displeasure
2.
a. To violate a moral or divine law; sin.
b. To violate a rule or law

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:33 AM

A person is born with 2 extra fingers on their hand and surgery is available to remove the extra digits. This person CHOOSES – for whatever reason - not to have the surgery because that’s how they were born. OMG, " What she is doing is just nasty". People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

A person is born missing their leg below the thigh and the stump is horribly misshapen. Prosthetic limbs are available but the person CHOOSES - for whatever reason - not to use one or have surgery to correct the shape of the stump because that’s how they were born. OMG, "What she is doing is just nasty". People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

A person is born with a massive port wine birthmark down the side of their face and treatment is available to lighten or remove the birthmark. This person CHOOSES – for whatever reason - not to have the treatment because that’s how they were born. OMG, "What she is doing is just nasty". People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

A person is born with a condition that causes them excessive hair growth . Treatment is available to curb the hair growth , electrolysis is available to remove what is already there. They CHOOSE - for whatever reason - not to have treatment for the condition because they were born that way. OMG, "What she is doing is just nasty". People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

Balpreet Kaur did not have a choice in having the condition she has which causes excessive hair growth. Instead of bowing to the stunted and immature opinions of people who it seems have nothing better to do than ridicule her and call her decision to accept her body the way it is nasty, she has embraced who she is , flying strong and confident in the face of immature boys and men who seem to think this affects their life in some way. Perhaps these immature and ignorant individuals should consider what they would do if it were their sister, wife, mother or daughter with this condition. And respect their possible choice not to have treatment in order to please an aesthetic that some in society have that their appearance isn’t acceptable. It’s just ‘nasty’, right?


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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:46 AM

Sorry if the truth offends you

Lol I'm not offended, I'm actually on your side.
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:50 AM

A person is born with 2 extra fingers on their hand and surgery is available to remove the extra digits. This person CHOOSES – for whatever reason - not to have the surgery because that’s how they were born. OMG, " What she is doing is just nasty". People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

A person is born missing their leg below the thigh and the stump is horribly misshapen. Prosthetic limbs are available but the person CHOOSES - for whatever reason - not to use one or have surgery to correct the shape of the stump because that’s how they were born. OMG, "What she is doing is just nasty". People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

A person is born with a massive port wine birthmark down the side of their face and treatment is available to lighten or remove the birthmark. This person CHOOSES – for whatever reason - not to have the treatment because that’s how they were born. OMG, "What she is doing is just nasty". People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

A person is born with a condition that causes them excessive hair growth . Treatment is available to curb the hair growth , electrolysis is available to remove what is already there. They CHOOSE - for whatever reason - not to have treatment for the condition because they were born that way. OMG, "What she is doing is just nasty". People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

Balpreet Kaur did not have a choice in having the condition she has which causes excessive hair growth. Instead of bowing to the stunted and immature opinions of people who it seems have nothing better to do than ridicule her and call her decision to accept her body the way it is nasty, she has embraced who she is , flying strong and confident in the face of immature boys and men who seem to think this affects their life in some way. Perhaps these immature and ignorant individuals should consider what they would do if it were their sister, wife, mother or daughter with this condition. And respect their possible choice not to have treatment in order to please an aesthetic that some in society have that their appearance isn’t acceptable. It’s just ‘nasty’, right?


Do you grow out your facial hair? Or do you treat it?

A majority of women get rid of that hair, making other women who grow it, look nasty.

It's just how society is.

Think about it this way, 20-30 years ago, it was sexy for men to have chest hair, nowadays, people think it looks nasty..

It's just how it goes..
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:59 AM

Think about it this way, 20-30 years ago, it was sexy for men to have chest hair, nowadays, people think it looks nasty..


I says pardon....

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:02 PM

Do you grow out your facial hair? Or do you treat it?

A majority of women get rid of that hair, making other women who grow it, look nasty.

It's just how society is.

Think about it this way, 20-30 years ago, it was sexy for men to have chest hair, nowadays, people think it looks nasty..

It's just how it goes..


"It's just how society is" "It's just how it goes" And God forbid that should ever change, right? Society should never, ever change. Women should still be chattel, black people should still have to ride at the back of the bus and have separate bathrooms, gay people should be put in jail and mentally challenged people should be locked in institutions.....gotcha.


:rolleyes:



Think about it this way, 20-30 years ago, it was sexy for men to have chest hair, nowadays, people think it looks nasty..


Rather a generalization, wouldn't you say? "People" think it looks nasty?? Really? When I looked in the mirror this morning, getting ready for work....and granted, it was 5:30 am........I was pretty sure I was a person....a 'people'. I happen to think it's sexy as *&^%$#@! hell for men to have chest hair...........



I says pardon....

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:03 PM

The only thing dumber than a woman having facial hair, is having facial hair because of "her faith"


Just when the conversation was starting to get intelligent...

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:06 PM

"Think about it this way, 20-30 years ago, it was sexy for men to have chest hair, nowadays, people think it looks nasty" ..


Just to share my own story .. I stopped plucking my chest hair the day I accidentally plucked my right nipple off .. sad, but true .. B)
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:07 PM

"Think about it this way, 20-30 years ago, it was sexy for men to have chest hair, nowadays, people think it looks nasty" ..


Just to share my own story .. I stopped plucking my chest hair the day I accidentally plucked my right nipple off .. sad, but true .. B)


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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:20 PM

"Think about it this way, 20-30 years ago, it was sexy for men to have chest hair, nowadays, people think it looks nasty" ..


Just to share my own story .. I stopped plucking my chest hair the day I accidentally plucked my right nipple off .. sad, but true .. B)



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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:22 PM

"Think about it this way, 20-30 years ago, it was sexy for men to have chest hair, nowadays, people think it looks nasty" ..


Just to share my own story .. I stopped plucking my chest hair the day I accidentally plucked my right nipple off .. sad, but true .. B)


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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:24 PM

"It's just how society is" "It's just how it goes" And God forbid that should ever change, right? Society should never, ever change. Women should still be chattel, black people should still have to ride at the back of the bus and have separate bathrooms, gay people should be put in jail and mentally challenged people should be locked in institutions.....gotcha.


:rolleyes:





Rather a generalization, wouldn't you say? "People" think it looks nasty?? Really? When I looked in the mirror this morning, getting ready for work....and granted, it was 5:30 am........I was pretty sure I was a person....a 'people'. I happen to think it's sexy as *&^%$#@! hell for men to have chest hair...........





LO-O-O-SE IT!! SNAP!! Head fake him with the Gatorade, Shift! :lol:


Overtime, society changes the way it views things.. that's all I'm saying, perhaps it'll be sexy for women to grow their hair out, who knows.

By the way, you didn't answer my original question on whether you choose to grow your hair out or treat it. But you chose to respond to the rest of my post.

Edited by Kass9, 27 September 2012 - 12:26 PM.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:31 PM

Overtime, society changes the way it views things.. that's all I'm saying, perhaps it'll be sexy for women to grow their hair out, who knows.

By the way, you didn't answer my original question on whether you choose to grow your hair out or treat it. But you chose to respond to the rest of my post.


As I don`t have the condition Balpreet Kaur has, the question was moot.

Edited by Bertuzzi Babe, 27 September 2012 - 12:31 PM.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:34 PM

As I don`t have the condition Balpreet Kaur has, the question was moot.


Women grow hair, it isn't a secret. But do you choose to keep it or get rid of it?

Simple.
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:43 PM

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A person is born with 2 extra fingers on their hand and surgery is available to remove the extra digits. This person CHOOSES – for whatever reason - not to have the surgery because that’s how they were born. OMG, " What she is doing is just nasty". People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

A person is born missing their leg below the thigh and the stump is horribly misshapen. Prosthetic limbs are available but the person CHOOSES - for whatever reason - not to use one or have surgery to correct the shape of the stump because that’s how they were born. OMG, "What she is doing is just nasty". People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

A person is born with a massive port wine birthmark down the side of their face and treatment is available to lighten or remove the birthmark. This person CHOOSES – for whatever reason - not to have the treatment because that’s how they were born. OMG, "What she is doing is just nasty". People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

A person is born with a condition that causes them excessive hair growth . Treatment is available to curb the hair growth , electrolysis is available to remove what is already there. They CHOOSE - for whatever reason - not to have treatment for the condition because they were born that way. OMG, "What she is doing is just nasty". People pointing and staring thinking they’re nasty because they made a choice not to change themselves to be aesthetically pleasing to societal ‘norms’.

Balpreet Kaur did not have a choice in having the condition she has which causes excessive hair growth. Instead of bowing to the stunted and immature opinions of people who it seems have nothing better to do than ridicule her and call her decision to accept her body the way it is nasty, she has embraced who she is , flying strong and confident in the face of immature boys and men who seem to think this affects their life in some way. Perhaps these immature and ignorant individuals should consider what they would do if it were their sister, wife, mother or daughter with this condition. And respect their possible choice not to have treatment in order to please an aesthetic that some in society have that their appearance isn’t acceptable. It’s just ‘nasty’, right?


Lol You are intentionally trying to provoke an emotional response from people by using a birth defect or serious injury example regarding loss of a limb to further your argument....I love it when people do it, because it often shows they have no other way to trying to get their point across. I don't mean to offend you, but that is a pathetic way to argue.

Hair is not a birth defect; excessive hair is but that's not what we're dealing with (I'm talking about people completely covered in hair). Every woman has hair on her legs and armpits (in fact nearly all parts of body except lips, nipples etc); some have a little extra on faces as well (again, different from being excessively hairy). Societal norm is shaving that hair, which I'm assuming you do as well. Another societal norm is having a bath so you don't stink, but body odour is as natural as body hair so i'm sure a person who doesn't would not be considered a champion to some sort of a cause. Nail growth is natural but for sanitary purposes and otherwise, we cut nails, so I guess I'm being immature if I expect people to do that as well. My two examples, however, serve a practical function as well....

Admittedly, hair on women's faces/legs is somewhat of an arbitrary societal norm, but so is finding the word "f*ck" offensive (considering what it actually refers to), and finding a terrible word like "torture" relatively innocuous. Think about what those words mean and imply, and which ought to be considered more offensive.

Now we seem to have fallen into tangent on societal norms and how they relate to racism, but those arguments are besides the point. Yes societal norms change over time, but that does not relate to the situation at hand. Current societal norms, at least in the western world, frown upon racism as well as excessive hair on a woman's body.

Back to my original point, would you be disgusted by a man picking his nose, even though he is doing no harm to you or affecting your life in any way? My guess is yes, because like me (and most people who aren't sociopaths), you have been indoctrinated into our societal norms, and perceive that to be an absolutely disgusting activity.

*If you want to respond, please take the time to read my argument as a whole, and not take things out of context. I take the time to read what other people say as a whole before I respond, and I'd appreciate it if you did as well.
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Are you CRAZY??? Trade Green for ONE first round pick?? He's restricted after this season.... He WILL get an offer sheet for 7-8 million from a number of teams regardless if he plays another minute for us or not. That offer sheet would be worth 4 first round draft choices.


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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:46 PM

Lol You are intentionally trying to provoke an emotional response from people by using a birth defect or serious injury example regarding loss of a limb to further your argument....I love it when people do it, because it often shows they have no other way to trying to get their point across. I don't mean to offend you, but that is a pathetic way to argue.

Hair is not a birth defect; excessive hair is but that's not what we're dealing with (I'm talking about people completely covered in hair). Every woman has hair on her legs and armpits (in fact nearly all parts of body except lips, nipples etc); some have a little extra on faces as well (again, different from being excessively hairy). Societal norm is shaving that hair, which I'm assuming you do as well. Another societal norm is having a bath so you don't stink, but body odour is as natural as body hair so i'm sure a person who doesn't would not be considered a champion to some sort of a cause. Nail growth is natural but for sanitary purposes and otherwise, we cut nails, so I guess I'm being immature if I expect people to do that as well. My two examples, however, serve a practical function as well....

Admittedly, hair on women's faces/legs is somewhat of an arbitrary societal norm, but so is finding the word "f*ck" offensive (considering what it actually refers to), and finding a terrible word like "torture" relatively innocuous. Think about what those words mean and imply, and which ought to be considered more offensive.

Now we seem to have fallen into tangent on societal norms and how they relate to racism, but those arguments are besides the point. Yes societal norms change over time, but that does not relate to the situation at hand. Current societal norms, at least in the western world, frown upon racism as well as excessive hair on a woman's body.

Back to my original point, would you be disgusted by a man picking his nose, even though he is doing no harm to you or affecting your life in any way? My guess is yes, because like me (and most people who aren't sociopaths), you have been indoctrinated into our societal norms, and perceive that to be an absolutely disgusting activity.

*If you want to respond, please take the time to read my argument as a whole, and not take things out of context. I take the time to read what other people say as a whole before I respond, and I'd appreciate it if you did as well.


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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:59 PM

Lol You are intentionally trying to provoke an emotional response from people by using a birth defect or serious injury example regarding loss of a limb to further your argument....I love it when people do it, because it often shows they have no other way to trying to get their point across. I don't mean to offend you, but that is a pathetic way to argue.

Hair is not a birth defect; excessive hair is but that's not what we're dealing with (I'm talking about people completely covered in hair). Every woman has hair on her legs and armpits (in fact nearly all parts of body except lips, nipples etc); some have a little extra on faces as well (again, different from being excessively hairy). Societal norm is shaving that hair, which I'm assuming you do as well. Another societal norm is having a bath so you don't stink, but body odour is as natural as body hair so i'm sure a person who doesn't would not be considered a champion to some sort of a cause. Nail growth is natural but for sanitary purposes and otherwise, we cut nails, so I guess I'm being immature if I expect people to do that as well. My two examples, however, serve a practical function as well....

Admittedly, hair on women's faces/legs is somewhat of an arbitrary societal norm, but so is finding the word "f*ck" offensive (considering what it actually refers to), and finding a terrible word like "torture" relatively innocuous. Think about what those words mean and imply, and which ought to be considered more offensive.

Now we seem to have fallen into tangent on societal norms and how they relate to racism, but those arguments are besides the point. Yes societal norms change over time, but that does not relate to the situation at hand. Current societal norms, at least in the western world, frown upon racism as well as excessive hair on a woman's body.

Back to my original point, would you be disgusted by a man picking his nose, even though he is doing no harm to you or affecting your life in any way? My guess is yes, because like me (and most people who aren't sociopaths), you have been indoctrinated into our societal norms, and perceive that to be an absolutely disgusting activity.

*If you want to respond, please take the time to read my argument as a whole, and not take things out of context. I take the time to read what other people say as a whole before I respond, and I'd appreciate it if you did as well.


Considering I did not quote your post and my post was well out of any proximity to yours..... I was not responding directly to you. I`d appreciate it if you did not make assumptions about what I am writing,,,,,,,nor put words in my mouth. I would also appreciate you taking the time to read what I've actually written before responding to anything I post here.


"Pathetic way to àrgue`"..hmm.......well, sometimes you just have to break it down into digestible bits that people can understand. Obviously, you still don`t get it whereas others clearly have.

Hair is not a birth defect; excessive hair is but that's not what we're dealing with (I'm talking about people completely covered in hair).


Hmm, have you seen Balpreet Kaur nude? Do you know for a fact that she isn't? (completely covered in hair) Thought not, just more assumptions. And why does it even matter to you or bear mentioning?

And I won't dignify the 'picking nose' comment with a response.

And just so you know, bypassing the swear filters is in violation of the board rules. Just a heads up.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 01:06 PM

+1 Thank you


Amusing that you hide behind other people's arguments instead of forwarding your own and opening it up to scrutiny.
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 01:08 PM

Amusing that you hide behind other people's arguments instead of forwarding your own and opening it up to scrutiny.


I would, but it isn't worth my time.

I just plus'd him because I agreed with everything he wrote, and didn't have the time to write an essay myself.

Arguing isn't a job of mine, unlike some of you.
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 01:18 PM

I would, but it isn't worth my time.

I just plus'd him because I agreed with everything he wrote, and didn't have the time to write an essay myself.

Arguing isn't a job of mine, unlike some of you.


Yet here you are in this thread throwing in your 2 cents worth..........except that it isn't even your own 2 cents worth....ooooookaaaay, sparky.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 01:24 PM

Lol You are intentionally trying to provoke an emotional response from people by using a birth defect or serious injury example regarding loss of a limb to further your argument....I love it when people do it, because it often shows they have no other way to trying to get their point across. I don't mean to offend you, but that is a pathetic way to argue.

Hair is not a birth defect; excessive hair is but that's not what we're dealing with (I'm talking about people completely covered in hair). Every woman has hair on her legs and armpits (in fact nearly all parts of body except lips, nipples etc); some have a little extra on faces as well (again, different from being excessively hairy). Societal norm is shaving that hair, which I'm assuming you do as well. Another societal norm is having a bath so you don't stink, but body odour is as natural as body hair so i'm sure a person who doesn't would not be considered a champion to some sort of a cause. Nail growth is natural but for sanitary purposes and otherwise, we cut nails, so I guess I'm being immature if I expect people to do that as well. My two examples, however, serve a practical function as well....

Admittedly, hair on women's faces/legs is somewhat of an arbitrary societal norm, but so is finding the word "f*ck" offensive (considering what it actually refers to), and finding a terrible word like "torture" relatively innocuous. Think about what those words mean and imply, and which ought to be considered more offensive.

Now we seem to have fallen into tangent on societal norms and how they relate to racism, but those arguments are besides the point. Yes societal norms change over time, but that does not relate to the situation at hand. Current societal norms, at least in the western world, frown upon racism as well as excessive hair on a woman's body.

Back to my original point, would you be disgusted by a man picking his nose, even though he is doing no harm to you or affecting your life in any way? My guess is yes, because like me (and most people who aren't sociopaths), you have been indoctrinated into our societal norms, and perceive that to be an absolutely disgusting activity.

*If you want to respond, please take the time to read my argument as a whole, and not take things out of context. I take the time to read what other people say as a whole before I respond, and I'd appreciate it if you did as well.


The far larger point however, in context with Balpreet, was that she transcended the conformity of arbitrary beauty, and in doing so, imo, showed herself to be far more beautiful than simplistic and superficiality, when it comes to the essential definition of the word beauty, which ironically is a term that society has accepted and conforms to, as defined by the arbiters of our language, and the language of the western world.

Slumming down here in the muck of arguments about her facial hair as being representative of beauty based on superficiality and temporary, fickle and arbitrary understandings of what makes someone inherently and ultimately beautiful, is to give power to the muckrakers and cognitively unenlightened.

Balpreet transcended that with her self-confidence and courage of her convictions, even if those convictions are arguable. That's what, and again, imo, is what makes her beautiful, in a non-superficial but substantial way.

That's certainly my position and it's certainly seems to be the position of Bertuzzi Babe and I dare say and presume other members who found beauty in the way she carries herself, in thought and deed, specifically in how she knowingly acted in response to another's attempt at mocking her, humiliating her and using their own ignorance about her as motivation for their own pleasure-seeking. She rose above it, and in some of our 'books' that's not only remarkable but wholely beautiful as well.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 01:31 PM

^ ^ ^ Astutely said Sharpy .. "eye of the beholder", indeed .. ^ ^ ^
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