Kass9 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 It was a rhetorical question, no response is/was expected. And I don't answer off topic questions that had nothing to do with the post you were responding to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 don't have the time to sit here typing up condescending hot air for hours each and every day? you ain't no intellect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASSJAW Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I wonder if he has the time to spend time pretentiously reviewing his 'songs and albums of the year' while popping out and away from those threads long enough to passive-aggressively make equally condescending remarks not aimed at the person he's addressing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi Babe Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 i enjoy listening to and discussing music, my "reviews" are rarely longer than three sentences, and i'm generally more interested in the discussion, rather than the declaration of (my own) opinion. you've decided to spend your declining years in a constant state of condescension on an internet forum nice try, old man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASSJAW Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 LMFAO!!! "Declining years" "Old man" It seems anytime anyone disagrees with you, calls you out on the truths of your behavior here or it's someone you are incapable of matching wits with, it's all about being old and crotchety......*taking notes* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 Anyways, back on topic. Reddit Users Attempt to Shame Sikh Woman, Get Righteously Schooled A Reddit user going by the handle "european_douchebag" posted a surreptitious photo of a Sikh woman with the caption "i'm not sure what to conclude from this." The user's apparent confusion stems from the fact that the woman—bound by her religion not to cut her hair or alter her body—has an abundance of dark, untrimmed facial hair. The mind of european_douchebag was SO INCREDIBLY BLOWN by the fact that women have hair on their bodies—and, yes, faces—and that some women are bold, self-assured, and pious enough not to cave to western beauty standards (and gender expectations), there was nothing for him to do but post her photo online and wait for the abuse to flood in. But then something totally lovely and unexpected happened. The woman in the photo responded: Hey, guys. This is Balpreet Kaur, the girl from the picture. I actually didn't know about this until one of my friends told on facebook. If the OP wanted a picture, they could have just asked and I could have smiled However, I'm not embarrased or even humiliated by the attention [negative and positve] that this picture is getting because, it's who I am. Yes, I'm a baptized Sikh woman with facial hair. Yes, I realize that my gender is often confused and I look different than most women. However, baptized Sikhs believe in the sacredness of this body - it is a gift that has been given to us by the Divine Being [which is genderless, actually] and, must keep it intact as a submission to the divine will. Just as a child doesn't reject the gift of his/her parents, Sikhs do not reject the body that has been given to us. By crying 'mine, mine' and changing this body-tool, we are essentially living in ego and creating a seperateness between ourselves and the divinity within us. By transcending societal views of beauty, I believe that I can focus more on my actions. My attitude and thoughts and actions have more value in them than my body because I recognize that this body is just going to become ash in the end, so why fuss about it? When I die, no one is going to remember what I looked like, heck, my kids will forget my voice, and slowly, all physical memory will fade away. However, my impact and legacy will remain: and, by not focusing on the physical beauty, I have time to cultivate those inner virtues and hopefully, focus my life on creating change and progress for this world in any way I can. So, to me, my face isn't important but the smile and the happiness that lie behind the face are. :-) So, if anyone sees me at OSU, please come up and say hello. I appreciate all of the comments here, both positive and less positive because I've gotten a better understanding of myself and others from this. Also, the yoga pants are quite comfortable and the Better Together tshirt is actually from Interfaith Youth Core, an organization that focuses on storytelling and engagement between different faiths. I hope this explains everything a bit more, and I apologize for causing such confusion and uttering anything that hurt anyone. And then, THEN, something even more miraculous happened—the original poster apologized: I know that this post ISN'T a funny post but I felt the need to apologize to the Sikhs, Balpreet, and anyone else I offended when I posted that picture. Put simply it was stupid. Making fun of people is funny to some but incredibly degrading to the people you're making fun of. It was an incredibly rude, judgmental, and ignorant thing to post. /r/Funny wasn't the proper place to post this. Maybe /r/racism or /r/douchebagsofreddit or /r/intolerance would have been more appropriate. Reddit shouldn't be about putting people down, but a group of people sending cool, interesting, or funny things. Reddit's been in the news alot lately about a lot of cool things we've done, like a freaking AMA by the president. I'm sorry for being the part of reddit that is intolerant and douchebaggy. This isn't 4chan, or 9gag, or some other stupid website where people post things like I did. It's ???? reddit. Where some pretty amazing stuff has happened. I've read more about the Sikh faith and it was actually really interesting. It makes a whole lot of sense to work on having a legacy and not worrying about what you look like. I made that post for stupid internet points and I was ignorant. So reddit I'm sorry for being an asshole and for giving you negative publicity. Balpreet, I'm sorry for being a closed minded individual. You are a much better person than I am Sikhs, I'm sorry for insulting your culture and way of life. Balpreet's faith in what she believes is astounding. Holy sh*t, internet, I don't even know you anymore! I never thought something would come out of the seeping necrotic abscess that is Reddit that would actually make my day better, but wow. MY HEART GREW THREE SIZES THIS DAY. http://jezebel.com/5946643/reddit-users-attempt-to-shame-sikh-woman-get-righteously-schooled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown33429 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Ok few things to clear up about what I said. 1) My bold point about reading what I said as a whole before responding wasn't referring to a specific person. People have taken things I said out of context before, and i was trying to prevent it beforehand. I should've been more clear on that. 2) I agree that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and agree with most of what sharpshooter said, but I was talking about something else entirely. In my opinion, people are not necessarily calling her "ugly" (some may be) but she is being ostracized for violating a social norm. She is well within her rights to violate that norm, but men who find that disgusting (myself included) do so because of that norm. 3) The pathetic way to argue comment was not about splitting up the argument to deal with it. It was referring to people banking on a emphatic response to an analogy as a means to furthering their argument. 4) When i say excessive hair, I'm talking about people who have a disorder causing them to be literally as hairy as chimps. That is not the case with this person, and i can tell just be looking at the parts of her body which are exposed in the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 Ok few things to clear up about what I said. 1) My bold point about reading what I said as a whole before responding wasn't referring to a specific person. People have taken things I said out of context before, and i was trying to prevent it beforehand. I should've been more clear on that. 2) I agree that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and agree with most of what sharpshooter said, but I was talking about something else entirely. In my opinion, people are not necessarily calling her "ugly" (some may be) but she is being ostracized for violating a social norm. She is well within her rights to violate that norm, but men who find that disgusting (myself included) do so because of that norm. 3) The pathetic way to argue comment was not about splitting up the argument to deal with it. It was referring to people banking on a emphatic response to an analogy as a means to furthering their argument. 4) When i say excessive hair, I'm talking about people who have a disorder causing them to be literally as hairy as chimps. That is not the case with this person, and i can tell just be looking at the parts of her body which are exposed in the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 This story is now on front page of CNN.com. http://www.cnn.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapjacks Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Thanks for the post, was a good read And I mean this as a compliment, but she grows better facial hair than I can.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown33429 Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 That seems to say more about us men than it does about Balpreet. Wouldn't you agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyW Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Personally, I find it disgusting. Would I argue that one should or shouldn't shave it? No, that isn't my choice. However, if you are modeling your physical appearance for others then you would abide by what is the social 'norm.' You have no right to complain about the pessimistic views of on-lookers. Neither do you have a right to critise society for finding it disgusting; one culture's view on facial hair is no better than another's. I cannot explain explicitly why I find it disgusting, but I am sure it has a lot to do with my culture when I was growing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Just because somebody finds this gross, does not mean that they can't respect her for what she is doing. Personally, I think it is a little gross, but that is what makes her so worthy of respect, the fact that she can keep going and keep strong despite the criticism from other people. If what she was doing was perfectly acceptable by society today this wouldn't even be a story. Its the fact that she is standing up to societal norms and showing that she doesn't care what others think that makes her worthy of our respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Just because somebody finds this gross, does not mean that they can't respect her for what she is doing. Personally, I think it is a little gross, but that is what makes her so worthy of respect, the fact that she can keep going and keep strong despite the criticism from other people. If what she was doing was perfectly acceptable by society today this wouldn't even be a story. Its the fact that she is standing up to societal norms and showing that she doesn't care what others think that makes her worthy of our respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SukhKular Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 A little gross? She's a friggen nasty man-lady and the religion isn't exactly helping either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted September 28, 2012 Author Share Posted September 28, 2012 A little gross? She's a friggen nasty man-lady and the religion isn't exactly helping either. Of course, some will confuse opinion about someone's conduct with what someone has the right to do, and/or the respect one has for a person, as Katt Williams put it, "in tune with your star player", meaning respects themselves and doesn't give a damn what anyone else thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 She's a nasty man-lady?? How could anyone possibly confuse the lack of respect for her shown by you by saying that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted September 28, 2012 Author Share Posted September 28, 2012 You should re-think who here is confused --- hint: not me. I respect her as a person because I respect her freedom and choices in that she has the right to make them, and that she isn't changing for any person's views of her. That should have been obvious regarding the two examples of respect I have for her, but I guess I have to spell it out for you. My personal opinion of her is outside that respect, of which she is hardly woman-like to me and gross. Don't "confuse" respect for freedoms and respecting a person for their individuality for omitting personal opinion on the matter. You don't seem to be able to distinguish them. It's part of why she thinks it's okay, and that part is pretty stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 I don't think i'm the one confused here. You either respect someone AND you don't call them a "nasty man-lady".....OR you don't respect them BY calling them a "nasty man-lady". That's like me hypothetically saying, 'I respect your freedom to idiotically type and post on this board, even though I think what is typed makes you a hateful teabagging simple-minded moron, who doesn't have half the testicular fortitude that just about any woman has, let alone this particular one, in putting up your own picture, so we can all see how ugly you are on the outside as well as on the inside, and then dealing with the mockery with class and humility'.....though I would never do that, because I 'respect' your freedoms and your individuality and your opinion as a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SukhKular Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 It's part of why she thinks it's okay, and that part is pretty stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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