Captain Aerosex Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH no. We'd have either Ballard or Tanev in the top 4 if we did that! Probably the weakest blue line of all post-season teams if we traded Edler. Not going to trade away an all-star d-man before the playoffs, nope nope nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Depends on the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Orange Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 You don't trade a guy like Alex Edler and expect to improve your playoff chances going forward. Even if Gillis knew he would have trouble signing Edler after the post-season I still don't think he would do it. Its taking a step back. There's still time after the season to trade Edler's rights for a decent return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 yup trade him for a top six foward and high prospect or pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 How good was Edler during the playoffs against the Kings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 How good was Edler during the playoffs against the Kings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH no. We'd have either Ballard or Tanev in the top 4 if we did that! Probably the weakest blue line of all post-season teams if we traded Edler. Not going to trade away an all-star d-man before the playoffs, nope nope nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I will be stunned if Gillis can't extend him. He's just about the most complete defenceman we've ever had. As someone previously mentioned, there are deep Swedish roots in Vancouver. I would have no problem signing him for $30M over 6 years. If that doesn't keep him here, then look for a homerun at the trade deadline because he would immediately upgrade the Top 4 of any other team. He should fetch either a Top 3 forward, or a Top 6 forward + a high pick. EDIT: I also found the poll options to be awkward and confusing, so I didn't vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoolander Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 If we traded him for young, skilled players and not players 28+ than I'd be fine with it. Ennis and Foligno for example... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Orange Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 How useless is your point? Wow, so the guy didn't play his best, so unload our best dman, who's young, big, can skate, shoot, pass, was an all star....and is still only 26 and has gotten better every year.... yes those grow on trees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Orange Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Which year? Last year, when he played poorly to start, or 2009/10, when he dominated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 If we traded him for young, skilled players and not players 28+ than I'd be fine with it. Ennis and Foligno for example... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 We played against the Kings last year. My point is Edler is very inconsistent. He is either definite All-Star material or a shadow of himself. During the playoff run, he was lost out there. If Edler can maintain and become a force like he did in 2010-2011, we have a franchise defenceman. As it stands right now, he is obviously worth resigning, but for no more than any other defenceman on our top 4. In my humble opinion, signing him to a million more than any other top 4 d-man would be presumptious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Orange Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I get that and agree to an extent on his play. Regardless of consistency, he brings nearly 50 points a year from the back end and is one of our hit and ice time leaders. Those are legit factors that go into negotiations, but I'm sure the Canucks will have some stats of their own that give them reason to cut it back a little. The market this summer was different from previous years, although it's been increasing for some time. If we were trying to sign Hamhuis this summer he would have earned around $5M probably, if not more. Edler would have earned more, much like Enstrom, as well if he signed under the criteria for that time. With a new CBA needed, it'll depend on how things favour either side for what his end contract would be. If terms are greatly limited, his $/year goes up. If the RFA years are extended, it goes down. What if it's a couple year deal? What if we don't include an NTC? Lots of things can change what he'd earn, and I think there absolutely could be a reasonable circumstance where his new deal earns him $1M more in cap hit than any other D-man on our team. I'd rather see him stay at around the $5M mark, but we'll have to see what's in the CBA (and when it gets done) for what we'd be able to do with Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 yes. trade him in todays nhl you have to. dave donuts let jovo walk and moves like that HURT the franchises future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I see where you're coming from. Here is to hoping that a deal can be reached that is positive for both sides, and most importantly that Edler hits that next level and becomes a true number one defenceman. Thanks for the insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 The first poll option doesn't make sense. First you say "no deal" as in no trade, but then you say "no chance I'm letting him walk" which implies that you want something out of him rather than do just lose him to free agency. This implies that this option wants a trade. It's contradictory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 If he demands too much he will be traded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono2009 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 especially with salo gone, we need edler more than ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckinontario Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 As much as I like Edler, I think you pretty much have to trade him away if he doesn't sign by the deadline. IMO, that's a given - you don't just let guys like that walk away in the offseason when you can get something in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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