elvis15 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 You'll be sadly disappointed. Edler is considerably more proven than Garrison. Edler would easily get 7m on the open market. I'll be quite pleased if he signs here for 5.5m. And I'd happily give up Ballard to keep Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberries Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Ballard better than edler? oh man .. some people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Ballard better than edler? oh man .. some people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Depends on what the return is, everyone is tradable if the price is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drybone Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 You'll be sadly disappointed. Edler is considerably more proven than Garrison. Edler would easily get 7m on the open market. I'll be quite pleased if he signs here for 5.5m. And I'd happily give up Ballard to keep Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I really don't see him getting more than Enstrom, particularly if the new CBA isn't favourable for him, so $6M is unlikely unless he gets it from someone else in free agency. I don't know if $5.5M would be considered a discount, but it'd be more plausible than people suggesting he'll get less than Garrison (and Bieksa, and possibly Hamhuis). Everything else you're saying is unsubstantiated opinion at best. We don't know what was offered in the talks they had prior to the lockout, nor do we know what Edler (and his agent) feel he deserves. We do know Gillis has said Edler wants to be here and whatever they discussed, Gillis ended up wanting to see what the new CBA will entail before inking Edler to a deal. My previous posts have mentioned this as well, but the cap hit he ends up with depends a lot on the factors surrounding the contract: is there an NTC, short term or long term, what's in the new CBA, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Doctor Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 We can't keep losing players for nothing. If he has not resigned, make the tuff decision and move him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I understand how some of the kids whine about keeping Edler and lord bless em. But you damn well know better Baggins. Re read your own post. He either gets overpaid here or somewhere else. MG will NOT give him 5.5 mil . He will NOT give him 6 mil So I have no idea on what PLANET or alternate universe you see where after all this time NOW Edler decides to take a 'hometown discount' . His stupid agent has caught Erhoff disease and thinks because he gets second assists with the Sedins on the Powerplay he is now in Suter territory. So............since MG is not an idiot and will not insult the rest of the defensive core - Especially Hamhuis who came all the way here as a UFA - Edler is going to walk out a UFA to get overpaid elsewhere. Ergo we need to trade him , but we cant if there is no CBA to trade him with. He should have been traded by Sept 15th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 We can't keep losing players for nothing. If he has not resigned, make the tuff decision and move him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 So you would rather him stay here and become a FA so others would scoop him for nothing? We had Edler for a few years and didn't win a Cup. How sure are you that he will win it for us and it will happen this year (if there is even hockey this season)? If MG fails at the extension prior to the trade line, I would rather we get some decent than losing him for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Edler better than Ballard? oh man .. some people...............do you see what I just did there............ It's all about opinions man and when Edler gets moved to his wrong side and played with a rookie come back and we'll discuss it. By the way which of the two showed up in the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I would rather have a shot at the cup than weaken that chance. Playoff teams lose UFA's every year. Hence high quality UFA's available July 1st. That's the risk you take for a chance to win the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Interesting, coming from a guy who's signature is based on Canuck fans whining about trading Cody Hodgson for a project, prior to the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Cody was getting moved regardless. I didn't mind seeing Cody moved as bringing in Pahlsson turned the third line back into a checking line capable of playing shutdown. This in turn frees up the second line from shutdown duty to play a more offensive role. A formula that was extremely successful the previous season prior to Mahotra's freak eye injury. I didn't see it as weakening the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 He should be traded if we can't re-sign him by the deadline. Losing assets for nothing is a terrible way to run a club. Still pissed at losing Jovo for nothing a few years back. We have lost more guys but he stands out most to me, he was a great Dman back then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Cody may have been getting moved, but it would not have been until the off-season, at the earliest. And support of the trade directly contradicts what you (correctly, IMO) said about hanging on to Edler, as it relates to our chances of winning a Cup. It was completely obvious, to me, anyway, that at the time of the trade Sami Pahlsson was a significant downgrade to Cody Hodgson. A player (Pahlsson) who was 5 years removed from being relevant, really, just going through the motions on Columbus and earning a paycheque - not unlike what he did as a Canuck. That was a terrible acquisition, which, to me, was obvious when it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Seems to me the year before Ballard was watching from the press box while a rookie was playing. Ballard was pretty good this past playoffs but it was only 5 games. Based on what I've seen over the past two years I'd take six Edlers over 6 Ballards without ever batting an eye. The only thing I think Ballard is truly better at is fighting. I think you've been blinded by his hip checks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 He led his club in hits in his first 5 years in the NHL. I maintain, given an injury free season, playing on his natural side he would outshine Edler every day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Garret's moustache Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Baggins, you are too knowledgeable not to know Ballard was devastated by injury in 2010-11........I wonder how well Edler would have performed with similar injuries. He led his club in hits in his first 5 years in the NHL. I maintain, given an injury free season, playing on his natural side he would outshine Edler every day of the week. He is also a better, faster skater than Edler and has a wicked slap shot. I'm afraid as this video shows ..........somehow we ripped the heart out of the guy and he is only now finding his true form. On his day much more dynamic than Edler imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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