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#1 C-2

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:31 AM

To Toronto: Luongo, Higgins, Schroder, and a 2013 5th round pick

To Vancouver: McArthur, Kulemin, Bozak and rights to Franson, 2013 3rd and 2014 3rd round picks

Luongo = McArthur, Bozak, and Franson
Higgins = Kulemin + 3rd round pick
Schorder + 5th = 3rd (In a deep draft)


Vancouver: Get a winger in McArthur who can pass the puck to Booth and Kesler but with slightly more offensive upside than Higgins. Kulemin to put a big body on the 3rd line LW and has the ability to move to the second line if needed. Bozak to center the 3rd line and Franson to balance out the deal.

Toronto: They get an elite level goalie whose not really that bad contract can be buried in the minors/traded within 7 years. Higgins can easily replace Kulemin on the 2nd line with Grabovski and is more defensive orientated and will help the dismal TOR PK. Schroder to the minors and has a better chance to play eventually in TOR regularly than in VAN.







CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
VAN - TOR
FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Clarke MacArthur ($3.250m)
Nikolai Kulemin ($2.800m) / Tyler Bozak ($1.500m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
Aaron Volpatti ($0.600m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
Andrew Ebbett ($0.600m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Jason Garrison ($4.600m)
Keith Ballard ($4.200m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m)
Cody Franson ($0.840m) /
GOALTENDERS
Cory Schneider ($4.000m)
Dan Ellis ($1.500m)
BUYOUTS
Manny Malhotra ($0.833m)


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#2 Jägermeister

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:57 AM

Schorder + 5th = 3rd (In a deep draft)


Man I don't even think Schorder (Schroeder) is going to amount to much, and that is still an awful value comparison.
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#3 Ossi Vaananen

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 12:03 PM

We're on the cusp of a championship with a deep and gelled team, and you want to trade for players from Toronto? All Toronto players know to do is lose/choke. I wouldn't touch their regulars.
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Posted 04 October 2012 - 07:08 AM

How? Schroeder is a first round draft pick and your trading him for a third??

To Toronto: Luongo, Higgins, Schroder, and a 2013 5th round pick

To Vancouver: McArthur, Kulemin, Bozak and rights to Franson, 2013 3rd and 2014 3rd round picks

Luongo = McArthur, Bozak, and Franson
Higgins = Kulemin + 3rd round pick
Schorder + 5th = 3rd (In a deep draft)


Vancouver: Get a winger in McArthur who can pass the puck to Booth and Kesler but with slightly more offensive upside than Higgins. Kulemin to put a big body on the 3rd line LW and has the ability to move to the second line if needed. Bozak to center the 3rd line and Franson to balance out the deal.

Toronto: They get an elite level goalie whose not really that bad contract can be buried in the minors/traded within 7 years. Higgins can easily replace Kulemin on the 2nd line with Grabovski and is more defensive orientated and will help the dismal TOR PK. Schroder to the minors and has a better chance to play eventually in TOR regularly than in VAN.







CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
VAN - TOR
FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Clarke MacArthur ($3.250m)
Nikolai Kulemin ($2.800m) / Tyler Bozak ($1.500m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
Aaron Volpatti ($0.600m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
Andrew Ebbett ($0.600m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Jason Garrison ($4.600m)
Keith Ballard ($4.200m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m)
Cody Franson ($0.840m) /
GOALTENDERS
Cory Schneider ($4.000m)
Dan Ellis ($1.500m)
BUYOUTS
Manny Malhotra ($0.833m)


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Posted 04 October 2012 - 06:34 PM

Man I don't even think Schorder (Schroeder) is going to amount to much, and that is still an awful value comparison.


Schroeder? Look at what we can fetch for Luongo! haha
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Posted 04 October 2012 - 06:39 PM

I liked the proposal, until you said "flame away ladies".


Now, I class you with kanucks1 and theres_a_can_in_canucks.


ALSO: Kulemin is way overpaid and scored only 7 goals last year...and I'm pretty sure he split time between the 1st and 2nd lines...that's Gomez-esque.

Higgins was arguably our best player (beyond the Sedins) last season, and we got him for peanuts so why would we trade him?

Schroeder is up and coming, people are projecting him as a 2nd line centre should Kesler not be ready. (Granted the season starts on time.)

Bozak and McArthur are both highly over rated and not worth Luongo.

Franson is the only thing worthy in this trade.

Edited by MaximYapierre, 04 October 2012 - 06:43 PM.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 09:45 AM

We are in a market that truly undervalues his worth. Yes he has under performed at key times, so has the whole team. He is an elite tender and will fetch a top prospect or two, a roster player or two, couple of high picks. Glad Gillis understands his value & is not giving him away. A trade with TO will look more like

To Van: Jake Gardiner, Mikhail Grabovski, Mike Komisarek, 1st 2013, 2nd 2013 or 1st 2014

To Tor: Luongo, Ballard

Van adds a puck moving dman, a right handed physical stay at home dman, and a speedy skilled center. We reached the stanley cup finals because of skill & speed. Van roster

Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Zack Kassian (skill, size & grit)

Mason Raymond - Ryan Kesler - Alex Burrows ( speed, skill, checking, grit)

David Booth - Mikhail Grabovski - Hansen (speed, skill, checking, grit)

Higgins - Manny - Lappy (checking, grit, speed)

Andrew Ebbet/ Bitz

Alex Edler - Garrison (similar to the Edler- guy in Buffalo paring but with more defensive awareness & grit)

Hamhius - Bieksa (puck mover & defensive dman)

Jake Gardiner - Komisarek (puck mover & physical dman)

Alberts - Tanev


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roster is under the cap as per capgeek.com

Edited by nuckfanfromafrica, 05 October 2012 - 09:46 AM.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 10:10 AM

We are in a market that truly undervalues his worth. Yes he has under performed at key times, so has the whole team. He is an elite tender and will fetch a top prospect or two, a roster player or two, couple of high picks. Glad Gillis understands his value & is not giving him away. A trade with TO will look more like

To Van: Jake Gardiner, Mikhail Grabovski, Mike Komisarek, 1st 2013, 2nd 2013 or 1st 2014

To Tor: Luongo, Ballard

Van adds a puck moving dman, a right handed physical stay at home dman, and a speedy skilled center. We reached the stanley cup finals because of skill & speed. Van roster

Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Zack Kassian (skill, size & grit)

Mason Raymond - Ryan Kesler - Alex Burrows ( speed, skill, checking, grit)

David Booth - Mikhail Grabovski - Hansen (speed, skill, checking, grit)

Higgins - Manny - Lappy (checking, grit, speed)

Andrew Ebbet/ Bitz

Alex Edler - Garrison (similar to the Edler- guy in Buffalo paring but with more defensive awareness & grit)

Hamhius - Bieksa (puck mover & defensive dman)

Jake Gardiner - Komisarek (puck mover & physical dman)

Alberts - Tanev


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roster is under the cap as per capgeek.com

You're not serious, are you?
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 06:19 PM

Schorder + 5th = 3rd (In a deep draft)


Lol :picard:

I guess having a good year and scoring 21 goals aswell as becoming a better all round player isn't enough for Canucks Fans, he has to make the NHL and make an impact within the first few years or else trade him for next to nothing
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 01:19 PM

We are in a market that truly undervalues his worth. Yes he has under performed at key times, so has the whole team. He is an elite tender and will fetch a top prospect or two, a roster player or two, couple of high picks. Glad Gillis understands his value & is not giving him away. A trade with TO will look more like

To Van: Jake Gardiner, Mikhail Grabovski, Mike Komisarek, 1st 2013, 2nd 2013 or 1st 2014

To Tor: Luongo, Ballard

Van adds a puck moving dman, a right handed physical stay at home dman, and a speedy skilled center. We reached the stanley cup finals because of skill & speed. Van roster

Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Zack Kassian (skill, size & grit)

Mason Raymond - Ryan Kesler - Alex Burrows ( speed, skill, checking, grit)

David Booth - Mikhail Grabovski - Hansen (speed, skill, checking, grit)

Higgins - Manny - Lappy (checking, grit, speed)

Andrew Ebbet/ Bitz

Alex Edler - Garrison (similar to the Edler- guy in Buffalo paring but with more defensive awareness & grit)

Hamhius - Bieksa (puck mover & defensive dman)

Jake Gardiner - Komisarek (puck mover & physical dman)

Alberts - Tanev


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roster is under the cap as per capgeek.com


Toronto laughs. Luongo is getting older and has a huge contract. This situation in a way reminds me a little of when Hasek was traded to Detroit (Kozlov & a late first round pick). The Toronto equivalent would be Bozak and Ashton Carter for Luongo.

Edited by canucklehead44, 06 October 2012 - 01:19 PM.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 03:24 PM

To Toronto: Luongo, Higgins, Schroder, and a 2013 5th round pick

To Vancouver: McArthur, Kulemin, Bozak and rights to Franson, 2013 3rd and 2014 3rd round picks

Luongo = McArthur, Bozak, and Franson
Higgins = Kulemin + 3rd round pick
Schorder + 5th = 3rd (In a deep draft)

This is not at all close to realistic.

Toronto already has a lack of top 6 depth at centre. Bozak may be a tweener between a 2nd and a 3rd line centre but he's the second best centre they have.

Higgins has less offensive punch than Kulemin even if Kulemin had a bad 2012 season. In most peoples' eyes, Kulemin > Higgins.

They have no need for Schroder.

My advice to you is the more simpler the proposal, the more realistic it is. Focus on just Luongo to the Leafs.
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#12 Pineapples

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 03:38 PM

If you read the last line in the OP, you can safely make the assumption that he's trying to agitate us.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 04:04 PM

I've never understood why people include Player X = Player Y.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 04:49 PM

personally my favorite moment in this tread is when he says "edler - that guy from buffalo" ...priceless
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:38 AM

I'd be one pissed off Leafs fan...we (the Canucks) rob the Leafs.
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