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#541 shiznak

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:42 PM

The thing with The Rock is that his schtick for all these years IS his whole persona/character. When you take away that, he's just Dwayne Johnson and no one really wants to see that. It's like telling Austin, you can't say your catchpharses anymore, drink beer and open a can of whoop ass on anyone. Or telling Undertaker to get rid of his gimmick and we all know how well that went. His schtick might be lame and out-dated, but people will find it humorous, simply because he's The Rock. There will always be people that will say The Rock has loss his touch, but you can't deny that no one in the WWE right now can entertain the fans like The Rock. Cena, at times can do that, when he's not acting like a total idiot.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:18 PM

You guys do realize the boxing with god line wasn't original...

Not many people know of it which made it sound awesome when Punk did this. I have heard it before in a rap song from 1998:



And from wiki:


The phrase first appeared in James Weldon Johnson's sermon "The Prodigal Son", which was published in his 1927 book of sermons, God's Trombones: Seven Negro Sermons in Verse. The passage reads:
Young man-
Young man-
Your arms too short to box with God.
But Jesus spake in a parable, and he said:
A certain man had two sons,
Jesus didn't give this man a name,
But his is God Almighty.
And Jesus didn't call these sons by name,
But every young man,
Every where,
Is one of these two sons
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:31 PM

The thing with The Rock is that his schtick for all these years IS his whole persona/character. When you take away that, he's just Dwayne Johnson and no one really wants to see that. It's like telling Austin, you can't say your catchpharses anymore, drink beer and open a can of whoop ass on anyone. Or telling Undertaker to get rid of his gimmick and we all know how well that went. His schtick might be lame and out-dated, but people will find it humorous, simply because he's The Rock. There will always be people that will say The Rock has loss his touch, but you can't deny that no one in the WWE right now can entertain the fans like The Rock. Cena, at times can do that, when he's not acting like a total idiot.

i can agree with that

i actually liked taker's biker phase
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:35 PM

at the end of the day, whatever the rock says; it's dated. we've heard it all before. i was a fan of the rock since he joined the nation of domination.

back in the day, as a kid, i hated his guts. looking back today, rocky was gold when he was in the nation. he baited the fans in so well with the rocky sucks chants. however, as soon as austin went down and he had to carry the company while he was gone, that's where it all began with the "schtick," and he started working with jericho against triple h and steph and the coporation. at the time, it was great tv, don't get me wrong. but this is 2013, not 2000/2001

but when i was 13/14, i loved the rock's gag. i loved calling people at school a jabroni and stuff like that and calling them a money's ass, but i'm 24 years old now and that stuff is kind of, meh

punk may be breaking the 4th wall a little bit, but i really don't care. that's just his character-- that's who he is. classic, old school wrestling and keeping kayfabe, those days are pretty much over with WWE whoring themselves to social media and all of this community stuff they do

i'm not making excuses, since i am a cm punk guy, but some people need to get with the times here

people can rag on cena for being a nerd for some of the stuff he says, but it's all about delivery. cena is one of the best talkers today, whether you like it or not. same with cm punk, cesaro is starting to grow on me, but the whole, "i don't like you fat, lazy fans" has been done to death. he could do so much more. dolph is pretty good, aj is one of the most important characters on the roster right now, hell i even love vicki guerrero's work. it just takes 2 words for the entire arena to boo her out the building

but at the end of the day, the rock is... the rock. one of the icons of the attitude era but that can only get you so far today. he still has a tonne of charisma, but unfortunately, it's still stuck in the year 2000

This is exactly how I feel. I hope CM Punk wins at the Rumble. I will mark the frack out.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:58 PM

I don't see them giving Rock the title if he's not going to defend it at Wrestlemania against Jericho (when he returns and wins the Rumble). Plus Punk seems to have the Shield taking care of his near losses. I love Punk, he's the best heel in the business and the best wrestler. He didn't turn face, the Universe turned him into one because they were hating on Cena so much. Because of their feud he had to really alienate himself so it wouldn't be weird having a face / face title run.

And on the subject of the Rock's shtick, sure it's old but it's funny. The kids and immature adults seem to love it. And it seems like that is where Cena got most of his routine. I've laughed a few times at some of the things Cena has said. Sure, he's a horrible wrestler and he's corny as hell but he can make me laugh. I have a broad sense of humor and even the dorkiest thing can make me laugh. (and to get off topic on that I have a friend I play Red Dead Redemption with online, he's British and I never hear him laugh or crack jokes, very monotone in his speech, shows no emotion. One time he told a really dry joke, I don't remember it but I caught it and called him out on it and made him laugh).

Still waiting on Rhodes Scholars to win the Tag Team Titles. Team Hell No has run it's course and they aren't doing the "I'm the tag team champions!" anymore so there's no point in them having it.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:18 AM

"Superstar" Billy Graham posted this on his Facebook:

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Apparently he forgot what a heel is.


Chris Jericho@IAmJericho
Dear Superstar Billy Graham, Shut the hell up and stop being such a mark. Your Pal, Chris Jericho
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 05:09 PM

Chris Jericho@IAmJericho
Dear Superstar Billy Graham, Shut the hell up and stop being such a mark. Your Pal, Chris Jericho

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 07:03 PM

"sweet tapdancing jesus what is that on your face?" lol
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 07:51 PM

Lillian still wants the peoples' strudel
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:29 PM

  • DX and Kevin Nash invade the NXT taping at Full Sail University

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 04:09 PM

Jake Roberts Interview: Living With DDP, Getting & Staying Sober


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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:01 PM

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

LOL never ever mess with Y2J. wonder if Billy had something to say about that

Jake Roberts Interview: Living With DDP, Getting & Staying Sober


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jake's got this. can't wait until we hear about scott hall now.

orton vs barrett was a pretty good match, i have to say. barrett getting a clean win against a main eventer on tv? guess they're going all in
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:31 PM

hell, that was a good diva's match. real good. eve sold that spear like a champ-- supposedly her last match
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:01 PM

Super Cena strikes again... :picard:
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:02 PM

They made the Cena and Ziggler match really good but the ending was kind of crap. Still a really good match though as a whole. Ziggler is amazing.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:03 PM

So I just got up and turned my TV off in disgust.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:13 PM

LOL never ever mess with Y2J. wonder if Billy had something to say about that


jake's got this. can't wait until we hear about scott hall now.

orton vs barrett was a pretty good match, i have to say. barrett getting a clean win against a main eventer on tv? guess they're going all in


If anyone can turn Hall's life around, I'm betting its DDP. He should definitely make for some interesting DDPTV
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:20 PM

Raws 20th anniversary sure is fitting to the product they dole out every week. It sucks!

twinkie tits and cookie puss... :picard:

The Rock should be ashamed of himself
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:51 PM

no hbk, no austin, no taker. the best they got was flair. what a horrible show. 2 good matches tonight. pretty typical RAW
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:54 PM

From the sounds of it, I'll only be watching The Rock's segment again.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 11:00 PM

the rock's segment wasn't even that good. just the bit he did with vicki. the show all around just stunk. for some reason, i just had this gut feeling as soon as i heard steel cage match when the show started, i thought to myself, "AJ's gonna climb the cage. that would be pretty cool"

but when the match of the night was eve's farewell match...........
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:39 AM


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 09:06 AM

They made the Cena and Ziggler match really good but the ending was kind of crap. Still a really good match though as a whole. Ziggler is amazing.

Haven't seen it yet but it sounds like the same thing as last week. Ziggler hit Cena with 3 finishers, Langston hit him with a finisher, Cena kicked out each time. Hits Ziggler one time, match over. Lame..

I did see the anger management session and loved Sandow and Rhodes calling out the therapist on everything. I can't wait until they are the tag champions.

Edited by DRCN SLYR, 15 January 2013 - 09:10 AM.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:36 PM

LOL never ever mess with Y2J. wonder if Billy had something to say about that

I think Arda Ocal tweeted that Billy did reply with something, but I never bothered to read it.

#RAW was absolute crap.
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 04:12 PM

Matches were good on Raw....and then SuperCena had to show up once again. Why him and Ziggler couldn't move on after Ziggler scored the PPV victory over him baffles me, they just pissed on everything they did to build Ziggler up.
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Amazingly on his first shift Kassian would have had a breakaway if Kesler knew how to pass. And he still got switched with Weiss. And note it is "Weiss" not "Wise".


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:44 AM

Rumour has it, that the WWE creative team is pushing hard to turn Ziggler face, because people are starting to get behind him.

For the love of God, don't turn Ziggler face. He's a natural heel, showing off and being an arrogant prick is his gimmick, don't take that away from him. People cheer for him because he can sell moves like a pro, and has excellent wrestling abilities. Not because he's a crowd pleaser to kids.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 07:30 PM

- We noted before that WWE officials had discussions about CM Punk retaining the WWE Title against The Rock at the Royal Rumble and then have Rock win it at Elimination Chamber. F4Wonline.com notes that since Rock swore to God on RAW that he would beat Punk at the Rumble, the idea of Punk retaining was likely nixed. It's not a hard and fast rule but usually if a babyface guarantees or swears to God that he will win, he wins.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:33 PM

I hope Rocky wins the championship.
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 03:14 PM

My god is the WWE painful to watch nowadays. Dolph Ziggler is considered a star?? And please, let CM Punk talk for another hour each week, we all care about that.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:59 AM

My god is the WWE painful to watch nowadays. Dolph Ziggler is considered a star?? And please, let CM Punk talk for another hour each week, we all care about that.


Those are pretty much the only two people I care to see.
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