aGENT Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 It wouldn't surprise me if the casino doesn't get to keep her winnings either. Otherwise they would be motivated to let self-exclusion people gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Should go towards gambling addiction programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruits Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 I agree. Maybe it already does? Edit: In an earlier story I posted a link to I found this quote... "I agree that if I lose the game, BCLC will retain the bet. If I win the game, and BCLC determines that I was playing while self-excluded, BCLC agrees to pay the prize money to a third party instead of me," the agreement states. I just wonder who the third party is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I think that's a little extreme of an example. Servers are trained to recognize the signs of someone having consumed too much alcohol. It's probably not so easy to remember everyone on a self-exclusion program or be able to tell the difference between someone gambling for fun vs someone with a gambling problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:D Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 A lot of misinformation in here about Casinos. First, they don't rake in "billions". Most of their profit goes back to BCLC which is recirculated into programs like the Self-Exclusion program. I was in this program for years, who do you think paid for my visits to Problem Gambling counselors? Taxes? Nope... Investigate Edgewater Casino's recent hearings with the City of Vancouver about expansion, they present an accurate depiction of where the money goes on a civil level. Hell, you'd just need to drive around in Queensborough, New Westminster to see the parks and community centres funded in large part by Starlight Casino. This is money that the Casino pays to the city, separate from BCLC's large (50%+) cut of game winnings. Second, the Casino doesn't keep winnings forfeited by Self-Excluded patrons. They're donated. And it is set up like that because the program does need to have some teeth to it. All of this is explained to people as they sign the contract and they return KNOWING that they aren't going to get to keep large jackpots. Thirdly, Self-Exclusion is a BCLC program, not a service provider one. Everything to do with it is BCLC from the advertising to the GameSense advisors on site to the upkeep of the profile database that all Casinos in BC use. The database however has literally tens of thousands of profiles on it and to expect Security staff to be able to stop every violator is ridiculous. I've worked at several Casinos and I have never heard of anyone neglecting their duties as far as approaching and evicting violators with as much tact as possible. You guys watch movies about Vegas and you think you know how Casinos work and it is just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:D Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 They employ the latest high tech and higly efficent face recognition software(I've been through the program). There are many signs and staff are trained to recognize complusive behaviour. The problem is they are not motivated. If something comes to their attention they have to deal with it but in general security is lax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Found this on the BCLC website: Entering a Casino and Gambling While Self-Excluded If you enter a casino while self-excluded and you are identified, security will be alerted and you will be asked to leave. I'd say she might have a case.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eh! Team Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 This lady is completely at fault. She admits to knowing she's had a gambling problem. She knew she wasn't supposed to gamble but she CHOSE to gamble. Nobody forced her. She did it on her own accord. This is just another case of someone thinking they should get repaid for all of their mistakes. I smoked for 16 years and quit. I don't think Players are going to send me a cheque anytime soon to repay me for all those packs I bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:D Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Found this on the BCLC website: Entering a Casino and Gambling While Self-Excluded If you enter a casino while self-excluded and you are identified, security will be alerted and you will be asked to leave. I'd say she might have a case.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Like others have stated, it's not their fault. If she wants to gamble her money away that's her choice, why would they try to stop her lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 She doesn't. She would have to prove that Security, while fully aware of her Self-Excluded status, willingly let her continue gambling once identified for an undue amount of time.... which she won't be able to prove. Giving a Casino your picture does not mean everyone that works there will recognize you among a group of dozens or hundreds of people or among a crowd as you enter. Especially slot players who are always facing away from inspection/identification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 <p>Your license plate when you drive in, however... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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