Tystick, your general theme seems to be "we know nothing, but we do know that the earth's axis spins at a slow rate, and that this means a big change starting in December".
Predicting the future is imossibly hard, and I can not think of anyone who had long term success predicting any sort of future. So if you start off by insisting that we know nothing, on what basis do you presume that you can claim to anything about the future? Yes the mayans were smart, and really good at astronomy. Not as good as we are, but for their time they were great.
You ask "who is to say it won't happen". But that is a generic argument that can be used on any belief. Who is to say that we all don't have invisible raccoon spirits by our sides at all times? Who is to say that Jack the Ripper won't descend from heaven to rid the world of hockey fans?
For this reason, big claims require big support. By default we have no reason to believe that a wobble in the earth's axis will have any impact on anything. So in order to separate this idea from an infinite amount of BS that anyone could make up, there needs to be a positive reason besides "a mayan told an author who told me".
There is no galactic alignment occurring on that day or any other. It is an invented phenomonon.
The great year is not starting over, its only about 65% done.
The mayan calendar is about 2500 years old, not 26000. The great pyramids are anout 4500 years old.
People have been around for hundreds of thousands of years, but there is no reason to believe that they were anything other than hunter gatherer groups until 10000 years ago. There are no signs of any civilisations greater than ours. We can find trash from an ancient culture the size of a small band. And yet these advanced cultures leave no traces? If thats the case, why are they any less ridiculous than an ancient race of pogo riding leapord men?
No. That's not my general theme, don't change my wording around to suit your argument. I'm saying we as humans don't know a whole lot about ourselves, the earth, and the universe. The fact the earth has a wobble doesn't mean anything will definitely happen on December 21st 2012.
Seriously dude, do you ever look up into the sky at night? We are living on a planet that is so big it would be impossible to explore everything in a lifetime. This planet is in a solar system that has 7 (8 if pluto) other planets (all of which we have 0 idea if life has ever existed and/or is existing as we speak). Just from saying that proves we don't know what's out there in our own solar system, and it gets even crazier after that. This solar system is in a galaxy that contains billions of stars, and every star in the sky could possibly be another sun, of which could hold a solar system, meaning there may be other life just like us out there. On top of that, there's billions upon billions (from what we know - which is really just a guess (we don't know a whole lot)) of galaxies! And this is all contained in what we comprehend as a universe. And who knows if there's more universes ! Do you see what I mean now?
I'm not trying to predict anything. I was pointing out from simply observing humanity, that we as people (especially the newer generations) are realizing that the way the older generations of people are handling things isn't always beneficial to anyone or anything, and often question why they do so in the first place (ex. pollution).
The Mayans believed that the end of the long count (Dec. 21st 2012) will be the end of the old way of living and a new age of awareness will be brought upon us. The reason I believe in it is because it's matching up with whats happening right now.
This "generic argument" is backed up by an ancient cultures belief (which they still believe today btw), so I wouldn't say it's that generic. The random predictions you're making aren't comparable because there is no evidence proving a possibility in the first place, so that argument is invalid.
I don't know if this will happen or not, but when an ancient culture believes in something like this, it becomes interesting. I feel that we, a culture that has been so dis-harmonic with ourselves for a long time, are ignorant to even dismiss the entire thing completely just because we can't comprehend such a phenomenon. Who knows if it will happen or not, if it does it would be a good thing, and it baffles me as to why you're so persistent to shut it down.
As for your facts, I have no idea where you are getting this stuff.
From our perspective on Earth; a Galactic Alignment of the Sun, Earth, and Center of the Galaxy will occur on the Winter Solstice around December 21st 2012. This alignment happens every year and has no affect on us.
The Mayan timeline began on 13 August 3114 B.C.E. (very near the start of the Egyptian Old Kingdom). This is the starting point of the Mayan Long Calendar. The time divisions in the long calendar were:
1 kin = 1 day
20 kins = unial (20 days)
18 unials = tun (360 days)
20 tuns = katun (7200 days)
20 katuns = baktun (144,000 days, about 394.25 years)
13 baktuns = a Great Cycle (1,872,000 days, about 5,125.25 years)
A Great Cycle, or Age, is also known as a "Sun." Their legends state that at the end of each Sun there is a transformation. They count time in a cycle of five Suns, which therefore spans 9,360,000 days, or about 25,627 years. Some cite this Five Sun cycle as evidence of Mayan knowledge of procession of the equinoxes (This is why I said 26,000 years).
Mayans believed that we are currently in the Fifth Great Cycle, which will end, and a new First Sun begin, on 23 December 2012. Popular literature abounds with speculation on this event, and its near-coinciding with ecliptic crossing to the north of the Solar System's orbit around the Galactic Center.
If I said the Great Pyramid initially, I meant the Sphinx, my apologies.
As for your last paragraph, I'm not even going to bother, because I'll most likely end up writing a book.
Edited by Tystick, 10 October 2012 - 05:21 PM.