Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Boston does this because? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 BOS Schneider Ballard 1st VAN Lucic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Because they get a hometown super goalie to replace Thomas (Rask won't last), and a first, and some depth on defense. The Canucks get a hometown player who will put his whole heart in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Tuukka Rask...Malcolm Subban... Great proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Fatigue Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 BOS Schneider Ballard 1st VAN Lucic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Fatigue Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Hey King, just wanted to know who your favorite team is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Are we actually talking about Wellwood? What are the Canucks; a bottom feeder? Get what you can for Luongo, Get Kadri at all cost, Shouldn't have let Wellwood go, Insanity or ignorance; pick one, because that's what I'm reading. Luongo is our best chance to a Cup, Kadri will have an excellent AHL career, Wellwood is a thing of the past and thank God for that. This team does not need to trade it's top 5 goaltender, it does not need to chaperone a Leafs' failure, nor does it need to get softer. This team needs a 1D, some heavy toughness and some scoring; it relies too much on the Sedins to carry the load. Kesler needs to pass if he's going to center the second line and if not, this team needs a 2C to pass to Kesler and Booth. Schneider needs to be traded at some point in order to bring in some much needed help as either a 1D, a 2C or a T6F. Packaging Edler and Schneider together for a 1D is what I'm looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Fatigue Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Schneider needs to be traded at some point in order to bring in some much needed help as either a 1D, a 2C or a T6F. Packaging Edler and Schneider together for a 1D is what I'm looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Question...how did you arrive at top 5 goalie? His stats last year were 12th and 16th I believe....and...on a first place team! Teams are built from the goal out, so, why trade your best goalie who gives you a better chance to win? An "A" defenseman plays maybe 24 minutes a game, not the 60 a goalie plays? Schneider 1.96gaa, Lou 2.41, SP .936 VS .919 !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 This team needs a 1D, some heavy toughness and some scoring; it relies too much on the Sedins to carry the load. Kesler needs to pass if he's going to center the second line and if not, this team needs a 2C to pass to Kesler and Booth. Schneider needs to be traded at some point in order to bring in some much needed help as either a 1D, a 2C or a T6F. Packaging Edler and Schneider together for a 1D is what I'm looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 A "supergoalie" as you referred to Schneider, and an all star blueliner for another #1 defenseman? Who do you have in mind? Yes, I am calling Hamhius a #1 - I'm betting Yzerman would agree and puts him on Team Canada's top 6 (definitely ahead of what people here loosely call a #1 on the Laff's blueline). Kesler on the wing? Silly. He's a Selke center for a reason. I wouldn't give these ideas a pass in grade school hockey, let alone 101. No squared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiDeN Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 shazzam, I never read your posts. I usually just end up staring at your avatar. Damn Kate Upton and her tig ol' bitties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 You don't build a team based on one year stats. Like the stock market, one studies a particular company for its 10 year record. Again and again, I think I understand what you're saying since that's all you're saying: last year's stats are sub par. Yes. I understand. Last year's stats are sub par. Sub par, are last year's stats. I do understand this. Thanks to you Smurf47, who keeps mentioning it every three post you post. There is no guarantee in Schneider whereas there is a guarantee with Luongo; the Canucks make the playoffs. Despite your forty years experience in the technicality of goaltending, you seem to have forgotten the revolving door of the 80's, 90's and early 00's regarding goaltending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get real canuck fans Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 You don't build a team based on one year stats. Like the stock market, one studies a particular company for its 10 year record. Again and again, I think I understand what you're saying since that's all you're saying: last year's stats are sub par. Yes. I understand. Last year's stats are sub par. Sub par, are last year's stats. I do understand this. Thanks to you Smurf47, who keeps mentioning it every three post you post. There is no guarantee in Schneider whereas there is a guarantee with Luongo; the Canucks make the playoffs. Despite your forty years experience in the technicality of goaltending, you seem to have forgotten the revolving door of the 80's, 90's and early 00's regarding goaltending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowest common denominator Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Schneider is outta here. Hello Roberto/Eddie show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiDeN Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Schneider is outta here. Hello Roberto/Eddie show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 So Kadri is the leafs top center? Lol he isn't a 1st line center right now. I'm not sure how trading him takes anything away from there team trading him in a deal for Luongo would only fill an even bigger hole. Now, you say he is an average skater, that's fine. I think he is a bit above average, but either way he doesn't have top notch speed, and that's fine, Skating isn't an issue which is my point, his speed and skating ability is perfectly fine. Not a weakness. And your right he does coast, but that doesn't mean he isn't a good skater, and him coasting isn't a problem, the only players who should have there feet moving the entire time (or most of it) is the defense. All forwards are going to coast from time to time it's the way the position works. Give me Hundreds more, Josh Holden didn't put up the AHL points Kadri did right away and didn't even manage the NHL production Kadri has which isn't even outstanding in the first place. He doesn't go into the corners? Where is the proof? From everything I have seen, everything I have read, all the games I have watched I have noticed he has no issue going into the corners, his size which is average not small, isn't an issue, it doesn't take away from his game. Also you say he doesn't have desire, work ethic and he has a bad attitude. If these things were true then why hasn't he requested a trade? Why hasn't he given up yet? And if your going to come back with the out of shape argument again, tell me how many pounds he was overweight (Which probably isn't much) and also consider the fact that he is a picky eater and it is something he is working on, it's not that he doesn't care it is that he can't eat certain things, I know myself from experiance there are just some things my system just resists. And if you weren't biased, you would look at all the great things he does well. Okay so either way lets look at the big picture as to why I think we should be interested in him. He is 22 years old, young and developing, he is already NHL ready, and still has alot of development and learning to do, our prospect pool is weak in top talent, and adding him would be a huge addition, we need future talent. He would come here, we would be patient with him, give him chances, give him alot of opportuinty, there would be no pressure, and he could help us out in the future. And also since you are so interested in pointing out what you think he isn't good at, let's look at the other half of the glass and look at what he does bring: - Great shot - Has great vision, and see's the ice very well - great passer, has great hands and great puck control - is great at finding holes, and jumping into them - He isn't afraid to go where it takes to get the puck and create offense - He throws his weight around, he's not a complete softy, he does like to hit and isn't all that bad about it - He has game breaking offensive ability - His overall offensive skill is already NHL calibre and a bit above average IMO, Better than some guys on our team (Raymond, Higgins, Hansen) - He skates well People think he is not good defensively, and he isn't a defensive specialist and doesn't have to be, that's not the kind of player he is, ever time I see him he isn't a liability defensively and he isn't a liability defensively, so I don't see an issue there, not every player has to provide supreme defensive play, and also in his 1st NHL camp he led the team in +/- (Was +6) last year in the NHL he was a + player and in the AHL he is a career + player, so he also has the stats to back that up. And above all else, he is 22!!! He is still developing, he still is getting better, he is still working at it, bring him here and let him continue working at it without the pressure, give him some chances, and let him show his offensive ability & upside. You should be less biased when you watch him play, and fairly assess what he does well aswell rather than just trying to identify as many weaknesses as you can like you try to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 There is no guarantee in Schneider whereas there is a guarantee with Luongo; the Canucks make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 You just don't get it... I get that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Fatigue Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Schneider is outta here. Hello Roberto/Eddie show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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