oldnews Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 You're picking and choosing players to support your very weak arguement. Are the Sedins in decline? Maybe, maybe not. Will it happen? Of Course. Will it happen soon? Most players are on the decline of their careers in their mid 30s. The Sedins are 32 going on 33. If they are not on the decline it will happen within the next two or three seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorFutureGM Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 You're oblivious to the point - the point being that virtually every player's production fluctuates from one year to another at some point in their career - and one year of variance like that is not enough to indicate a decline. It doesn't matter which player you choose to evidence the point - there are literally so many. Next time perhaps you should read the conversation instead of jumping in and cherry picking. Your question - "are they in decline, maybe maybe not" - qualifies my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Two points in time provides a trend and the latest points (seasons) show a trend that is pointing downward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Do i need to remind the Kadri lovers here he spent the off season at the great Roberts camp then showed up at the Marlies camp fat and out of shape. Eakins said he was almost at the bottom of all the players for body fat content. Of couse he would look good in a trade for Luongo..if you are a leaf fan. Toronto can keep him and Bozak as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 In reality I don't want anything Burke has attempted to develop or any regulars he tends to ice. The regulars only know how to lose, would not work in a Vigneault system as Toronto forwards don't tend to back check. Realistically I would want something untampered from Toronto, be that Tyler Biggs or a draft pick but I'd rather stay away from guys like Bozak and Kulemin. I'm sure some people on here must still remember the Wellwood saga. Kadri is Wellwood 2.0. Unfit for Marlies camp how would he manage here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmployeeoftheMonth Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 That doesn't take away from the fact that it was a decline, no matter how you want to try and spin it. Did Sedin's numbers drop in 2011 relative to 2010? YES. Did Sedin's numbers drop in 2012 relative to 2011? YES. Pretty cut and dry. Do you refute these facts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Just to quickly address the first part of your post I didn't quote. I dont think there are many other teams that are a good fit for this (Luongo) trade other than Toronto or Florida myself. I think most can agree on the needs of the team, and I am sure MG is going to be able to fill them with the best deal available: 1x top 6 forward The top 6 forward is hardest to fill, especially since we ideally need a big/tough/playmaking guy to complement our existing core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 In reality I don't want anything Burke has attempted to develop or any regulars he tends to ice. The regulars only know how to lose, would not work in a Vigneault system as Toronto forwards don't tend to back check. Realistically I would want something untampered from Toronto, be that Tyler Biggs or a draft pick but I'd rather stay away from guys like Bozak and Kulemin. I'm sure some people on here must still remember the Wellwood saga. Kadri is Wellwood 2.0. Unfit for Marlies camp how would he manage here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kane Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 So you agree then that Garrison is on the rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Once the season gets underway I think Garrison will be viewed as the best value signing of the summer. A lot of the various hockey pool magazines prediction Jason to score in the low to mid 30 point range. I think Garrison will be good for 15 goals and 25 assists, the big difference is a much better power play than he's use to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Again, Luongo - BETTER THAN CAREER AVERAGE NUMBERS LAST YEAR DERP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kassassin Train Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 This thread is hilarious I'm going to laugh so hard at everyone debating about the Laffs fragile core if MG doesn't even deal him to the Laffs. I'm going to say that if we do deal Luongo with the Laffs you're seeing this coming back AT LEAST... Colborne + Kulemin + Colborne + Grabo + Colborne + Carter + 1st Kadri + Kulemin + Kadri + Grabo + Kadri + Carter + 1st Gardiner + 1st + Cap dump. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Gardiner + 1st + Cap dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Mullet, would you seriously take that over Colborne+Carter+1st? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Mullet, would you seriously take that over Colborne+Carter+1st? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Mullet, would you seriously take that over Colborne+Carter+1st? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Schneider's value is going nowhere but up. Luongo's value is steady - perennial top 10 guy. You've been whining for a hundred pages that Gillis blew it, should have moved Schneider, waited too long, fighting for table scraps now for Luongo, waivers, blah blah etc. But what you say about the guy you claim he should have kept - "He's now 33, has a shaky reputation, and is coming off of a so-so year on the President's Trophy team. If you think this is the same guy that arrived in 2006, you are dreaming." Why keep him then, king of contradictions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Gardiner looked good in the Marlie-Dogs game. Is he L or R? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Gardiner looked good in the Marlie-Dogs game. Is he L or R? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I think that there are a lot of negatives about the Canucks right now, this season has disaster potential for this team if/when it starts. Too much risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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