Dogbyte Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 They play for teams at opposite ends of team spectrum dog breath ! Ask yourself...what numbers would Dubnyk post on the Canucks and what numbers would Lou post playing or the botton feeder Oilers. No comparison on the 2 teams at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 b...again..the valued opinion of a 16 yr old midget hockey player..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorFutureGM Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 lol. As if age matters on one's knowledge of hockey, which you have proven many times you have very little of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Do you know more and have a greater understanding of hockey now than you did a year ago? Do you think you will have a greater understanding of hockey 10 years into the future than you do now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Liszt Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 He may possibly post similar numbers to Luongo. On a president's trophy team sometimes any decent goalie, and pretty much all the players will look pretty good. I can't believe you think at this point in time Luongo doesn't have more upside in terms of pedigree and the stature he brings to the rink along with his skillset, especially for an up and coming team. So you're saying if you had a choice you'd take Dubynk over Luongo straight up? Luongo beat him in pretty much every category last year so to basically pick a last place goalie that hasn't been great on a bad defensive team, without terribly good numbers is pretty unfair to someone in Luongo's position. This viewpoint is either incredibly astute, completely ignorant, or just completely biased, and most definitely unfounded and speculative at best. It seems obvious to me that only someone who has an axe to grind would make such an odd comparison and statement. And with regards to your statement I said that Luongo played very well last year, not that Dubnyk couldn't post good numbers on the Canucks or a better team. I've watched every game the Canucks have played in the past 4 years minus what I could count on my fingers and if you couldn't see that Lou played very well considering everything that has occurred you are either blind, don't watch the games, or see what you want. For the record I bashed Lou a bit at times I'll admit it, I'm no fan boy and I favor Schnieder but the level of senseless comments regarding this situation is beyond comprehension sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorFutureGM Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Obviously. Will your's, King's, and smurf's hockey knowledge grow in the future? Doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Luongo was the second best goaltender on the Canucks, not because he played poorly though. Schneider put on a clinic. His save percentage of .937 was only beat by Elliot's .940 - nobody else (who played more than a few games) even came close. And then his .960 save percentage in the playoffs - although in limited duty - was the best in the league by a wide margin. Schneider is the real deal. He's cheaper and younger too. That is why Luongo is available. Not because he isn't significantly better than at least half of the starting goaltenders in the league - ESPECIALLY than the scrubs the Leafs and Oilers have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Thought I provide a little food for thought with this question: What do you guys think Luongo's value would be if say, he posted numbers last season that were similar to 2010-11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I'm in my twenties and trust me, you don't know nothing when you're 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Pedigree and stature don;t stop pucks...and all things being equal...yes. I'd opt for Dubnyk...a first round pick over inconsistant Luongo ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 L:ous stats were middle of the pack on a first place team....so..how do you think he'll do on a defense weak second tier team...Dubnyk is technically better than Lou, quicker , younger and more up side and cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Pedigree and stature don;t stop pucks...and all things being equal...yes. I'd opt for Dubnyk...a first round pick over inconsistant Luongo ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiDeN Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I'm in my twenties and trust me, you don't know nothing when you're 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I think one of these days King is just going to say "GOTCHA" in regards to this flaming/trolling. No one in their right mind would believe Dubnyk is better than Luongo, or that Dubnyk has a higher upside. Same goes for Paajarvi, he'll be an NHLer but even Edmonton isn't over the moon with him. I'm starting to think this is all just incendiary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Nope. You're wrong again. I think there is absolutely no chance in hell that the Canucks would accept Paajarvi for Luongo - let alone throw in Ballard as well. Paajarvi is a one-trick wonder - if he isn't scoring, he isn't much of a hockey player. The same goes for your uber-soft Michael Frolik. Ironic that you'd suggest adding so much more soft to the roster. I guess I'll have to repeat myself - as usual where you are concerned - the guy you refer to as "some other d" is Petrovic - he's a big, physical right handed blueliner with a huge shot and a mean streak - the very type of prospect the Canucks could use to add balance to their pool of d prospects. Bjugstad is a center (aren't you the guy who considers Schroeder a bust?) - while Paajarvi is yet another left wing. In case you are as oblivious as you appear to be, the Canucks already have a few guys who are natural left wings on the roster - Daniel, Booth, Burrows, Higgins, and Raymond. Great idea you have there King - let's use the Luongo return to land a 6th roster left winger. DUH. Paajarvi and Frolik would be misfits who'd be lucky to crack the roster. Oh, you have a big problem with the third piece I proposed in that deal, but that only evidences, again, that you don't know much about what you speak. Upshall's career high was 32 points - which he managed in 49 games - he's scored 177 points in 387 career games - or .46 points a game - which translates into a 38 point average over 82 games in his career - which has been riddled with bad luck and injuries. Upshall would be a great guy to take a risk on - he plays a two-way game, is a solid skater, has good hands, no shortage of grit, is a character guy who works very hard, and he actually hits people - hard. Paajarvi threw 40 hits in his 121 game career - Upshall topped that in 26 games last year, coming off an injury. Yeah - I'd be pretty willing to take a chance on a guy who scores, hits, plays hockey in his own end of the ice, adds some much valued grit to the club and is versatile - can and has played a lot of right wing. A healthy Upshall has a much better chance of playing in the top 9 or 6 than your two grossly overvalued misfits (and an unhealthy Upshall does not count against the cap). Florida sheds his salary, the Canucks take back 3.5 while 5.3 goes the other way, and the cap hit is contingent on Upshall's health. What's your problem with the deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfxHaley Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I'm in my twenties and trust me, you don't know nothing when you're 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorFutureGM Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Riiight. Coming from the guy that proposed Omark, Belanger and Hamilton for Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vv2 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 It will be a dark day when you become this "Future GM"...Based on your logic and the way you run your mouth I sense another coming of Milbury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorFutureGM Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 You mean, you don't know ANYTHING when you're 16? Your 20's have served you well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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