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#1 VAGHA

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 01:47 PM

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The expression "Falling asleep" reveals to us that our "sub" conscious lies so deep,
that upon impact; one will awaken.


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Posted 07 October 2012 - 02:06 PM

Cool.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 02:46 PM

I have read several articles about lucid dreaming. I have found that with a little practice, you can guide your dream to any imaginable place. Although, if you try to control your dreams too much, it can all vanish. You have to find "triggers", that allow you become aware in the dream state.

Please feel free to share your stories....
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 03:12 PM

lucidity in the sky with diamonds!
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 03:15 PM

This thread should be merged in the legalize marijuana thread.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 03:23 PM

This thread should be merged in the legalize marijuana thread.


Lucidity can't be proven with worldly science.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 03:26 PM

Lucidity can't be proven with worldly science.

Lucidity? do we really need it?

In all seriousness though I've never been a big believer in controlling ones dreams lucid or otherwise. Influence absolutely but not so much control.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 03:31 PM

OMG Lucidity?!
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 03:31 PM

Lucidity? do we really need it?

In all seriousness though I've never been a big believer in controlling ones dreams lucid or otherwise. Influence absolutely but not so much control.


The irony is that dreams are a result of our sub-concious, and our sub-concious is out of our conscious control. To try and control something that is inherently out of our control, seems paradoxical to say the least, and a bunch of horse$hit at best.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 04:10 PM

I've been having a lot of WILDS (Waking Induced Lucid Dreams) lately. When going back to sleep after a brief period of wakefulness I'll typically go through a prolonged battle with sleep paralysis where part of my mind will be awake and embodied even though I can no longer exert significant control over myself, and the other half of my mind will be taking all of the physical sensations of paralysis and weightlessness and trying to spin a dream narrative around them. The images are more like mild hallucinations, though I will experience a very real sense of falling through a sky or a dark cavern. This goes on for what feels like twenty minutes until a full blown dream will materialize.

It might be useful to think of this as a mind hack. The transitional stages between sleep and dreaming are not normally something the conscious mind has any awareness of. The conscious "I" is usually the first thing to go. But in the right conditions you can fool your subconscious into thinking you are asleep by remaining perfectly still with your eyes closed. Remember though that when the paralysis kicks in the conscious mind will instinctively react with an overwhelming sense of fear, and in order to explain this fear it may hallucinate aliens or demons or as is the case with myself, shadow people. I think anyone who is aware of what sleep paralysis is and has experienced it will attest to the fact that this is no doubt the most probable explanation of most alien abduction reports.

Anyway, WILDS are pretty rare. My advice for attaining lucidity in dreams is to practice lucidity in waking life. How many times today have you seriously considered whether or not you are dreaming? If you don't ask this question in waking life you sure as hell can't expect yourself to ask this question while you are in a dream. Do it now. Are you dreaming? A good reality check is to read a store sign or a clock, then turn your head away for three seconds, and then look back at it. Dream symbols are highly unstable, and prone to rapid fluctuation. It may sound silly, but one of these days you are going to read that it is 4:08 pm, then look back a moment later and notice it's 7:22 and BAMO! you will find yourself in wonderland. At which point of course you are likely to wake yourself up from the sheer excitement of the discovery. Ah well, remember. It is a mind hack. It's not supposed to be easy.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 04:33 PM

I have read several articles about lucid dreaming. I have found that with a little practice, you can guide your dream to any imaginable place. Although, if you try to control your dreams too much, it can all vanish. You have to find "triggers", that allow you become aware in the dream state.

Please feel free to share your stories....

I learned how to do it from reading Stephen Laberge's "Lucid Dreaming". He's the guy who experimented on himself in The Stanford Laboratories by hooking his brain up to eeg machines that would verify he is in deep sleep, then was able to perform a set of previously defined eye movements deep that essentially proved that lucid dreaming is a real phenomena.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 04:50 PM

Lucidity? do we really need it?

In all seriousness though I've never been a big believer in controlling ones dreams lucid or otherwise. Influence absolutely but not so much control.


Interesting point. I can be in complete control of my actions within a dream, but not of the whole thing. You could change the dream scene, for example, but the subconscious is always at work in determining what you are seeing/experiencing within the dream.

I'm not good enough it at the moment to give a proper answer anyway.

I go through hot and cold patches. Had a few Wake Induced Lucid's last week, but since then nothing. The subject really fascinates me, yet so many people I know have never heard of it. I never bring it up really.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 04:51 PM

I have read several articles about lucid dreaming. I have found that with a little practice, you can guide your dream to any imaginable place. Although, if you try to control your dreams too much, it can all vanish. You have to find "triggers", that allow you become aware in the dream state.

Please feel free to share your stories....


My main problem is that when I'm lucid, I always have that lingering thought in the back of my mind telling me that I'm dreaming and that I'm going to wake up any second. I can't shake it, so I always end up waking after a matter of minutes and even that takes a huge amount of effort.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 05:15 PM

Fun and all but I want to work my way up to astral projection.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 05:24 PM

My main problem is that when I'm lucid, I always have that lingering thought in the back of my mind telling me that I'm dreaming and that I'm going to wake up any second. I can't shake it, so I always end up waking after a matter of minutes and even that takes a huge amount of effort.



Once a person attains a lucid state in their dream, to help maintain this one should try to be purposeful, and target a solution.

here are some of my experiences:

I have conducted several experiments, while I have dreamt.
(if you get a chance to become lucid, try these things out)

1) Flying: Probably the easiest thing to do. You will only start to
descend if you try to manipulate it too much, or become too excited.

2) Try to look at the moon: I was so successful in this attempt, that not
only did I see the moon, but I also saw the reflection of it in water.

3) Looking in the Mirror: Successful, however don't stare too long as your
body and face will start to transform/distort. The whole experience can be freaky.

4) Light switch: Try to turn the lights off, they say it can't be done because light is
a direct indication of time, and time is determined or calculated differently in dreams.
I've tested this several, and it seems to be true.

The following are experiments are yet to be done:

1) Feel my Heartbeat: placing my hand on my chest in hopes that it will reveal my heartbeat

2) Covering my Eyes: I'm hesitant because this may lead my mind to an unknowing
abyss, that I may not be aware of, I will try it nevertheless

3) Visit My Grandmother: She has passed away, However making contact would be
enlightening, however my guess is that one cannot control that. In this case I hope to
make contact without searching. In other words.... she will find me.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 06:15 PM

I know people that have achieved lucidity and I am currently attempting to do so myself.
Wouldn't say it's bs.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:19 PM

__________ is a hell of a drug.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:58 PM

The references to other thread titles have me laughing out loud.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 09:01 PM

Once a person attains a lucid state in their dream, to help maintain this one should try to be purposeful, and target a solution.

here are some of my experiences:

I have conducted several experiments, while I have dreamt.
(if you get a chance to become lucid, try these things out)

1) Flying: Probably the easiest thing to do. You will only start to
descend if you try to manipulate it too much, or become too excited.

2) Try to look at the moon: I was so successful in this attempt, that not
only did I see the moon, but I also saw the reflection of it in water.

3) Looking in the Mirror: Successful, however don't stare too long as your
body and face will start to transform/distort. The whole experience can be freaky.

4) Light switch: Try to turn the lights off, they say it can't be done because light is
a direct indication of time, and time is determined or calculated differently in dreams.
I've tested this several, and it seems to be true.

The following are experiments are yet to be done:

1) Feel my Heartbeat: placing my hand on my chest in hopes that it will reveal my heartbeat

2) Covering my Eyes: I'm hesitant because this may lead my mind to an unknowing
abyss, that I may not be aware of, I will try it nevertheless

3) Visit My Grandmother: She has passed away, However making contact would be
enlightening, however my guess is that one cannot control that. In this case I hope to
make contact without searching. In other words.... she will find me.


thanks for sharing this, I agree it definitely isn't fake but a reality. The human body and the human mind/brain is so complex we are just beginning to learn...
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 09:13 PM

Once a person attains a lucid state in their dream, to help maintain this one should try to be purposeful, and target a solution.

here are some of my experiences:

I have conducted several experiments, while I have dreamt.
(if you get a chance to become lucid, try these things out)

1) Flying: Probably the easiest thing to do. You will only start to
descend if you try to manipulate it too much, or become too excited.

2) Try to look at the moon: I was so successful in this attempt, that not
only did I see the moon, but I also saw the reflection of it in water.

3) Looking in the Mirror: Successful, however don't stare too long as your
body and face will start to transform/distort. The whole experience can be freaky.

4) Light switch: Try to turn the lights off, they say it can't be done because light is
a direct indication of time, and time is determined or calculated differently in dreams.
I've tested this several, and it seems to be true.

The following are experiments are yet to be done:

1) Feel my Heartbeat: placing my hand on my chest in hopes that it will reveal my heartbeat

2) Covering my Eyes: I'm hesitant because this may lead my mind to an unknowing
abyss, that I may not be aware of, I will try it nevertheless

3) Visit My Grandmother: She has passed away, However making contact would be
enlightening, however my guess is that one cannot control that. In this case I hope to
make contact without searching. In other words.... she will find me.


Yeah right buddy!


1. Heidi Klum


2. Angelina Jolie


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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:11 PM

I used to Lucid dream a ton as a kid, now not so much.

I had a really wild one the other night though ;)
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:17 PM

I have enough trouble staying lucid in my waking hours to start trying it while I sleep.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 11:07 PM

The only lucid dreams I have include doing inappropriate things to very hot ladies. I can't say it's not a great time - because it truley is, but it would be nice if I had the ability to do other things as well.


Meh.. Now that I think about it, doing other things wouldn't be near as fun anyway.
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