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#1 Red-Haired_Shanks

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 06:42 PM

***only if bryzgalove stays in the KHL because of the lockout****
rumors of players not returning from the KHL after the lockout are very real, and mr. universe might be one of the guys who stays over in russia. that leaves the flyers in a very bad position in net. they dont have brobovski anymore and now they must rely on leighton. not the idea situation. if luo agrees to waive his NTC to go to philly that would give them a very reliable goaltender and assures them they wont fall in the standings because of goaltending.

my trade

To Van: D Erik Gustafsson, RW Matt Read, 2013 2nd + 3rd
To Phi: G Roberto Luongo

we get:
-a good defensive prospect to add to the likes of Connauton, Sauve and Corrado
-a good top 6 winger that can play either on the 2nd or 3rd line. and hes young so he can get better than a 47pts player
-and a couple of draft picks, for this upcoming draft which is suppose to be very deep.

they get:
-an allstar goalie to replace and improve on bryzgalov. there goaltending situation gets resolved for the time being
-they free up some cap space

is this trade fair? can we get more for lou or are we underpaying? constructive feedback is appreciated

My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Chris Higgins ($1.900m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) /Mason Raymond ($2.275m)
Zack Kassian ($0.870m) / Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
Aaron Volpatti ($0.600m) / Andrew Ebbett ($0.600m) / Dale Weise ($0.615m)
DEFENSEMEN
Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) / Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m)
Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / Alexander Edler ($3.250m)
Keith Ballard ($4.200m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m)
Andrew Alberts ($1.225m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m)
GOALTENDERS
Cory Schneider ($4.000m)
Eddie Lack ($0.750m)
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SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,985,000; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (25-man roster): $5,215,000
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 06:50 PM

Seems ok value wise, i dont think i would do it though and Philly doesn't either unless they are absolutely desperate for a goalie. Although i guess if Bryz stayed in Russia they would be desperate lol :P
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 06:52 PM

Both teams say no.
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 06:54 PM

Both teams say no.


why? bryzgalov is gone to the KHL, they have leighton as there #1, hes an AHL goalie. luongo fills a need for them. read fills a need for us as a 2nd line RW, and gustafsson and the prosects we draft with the 2nd and 3rd rounders add to our prospect pool. can you explain to me why you would say no to this? thanks
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 06:58 PM

why? bryzgalov is gone to the KHL, they have leighton as there #1, hes an AHL goalie. luongo fills a need for them. read fills a need for us as a 2nd line RW, and gustafsson and the prosects we draft with the 2nd and 3rd rounders add to our prospect pool. can you explain to me why you would say no to this? thanks

Luongo can easily get much more than that. Gustaffson doesn't help us now and Read would be a little bit risky picking up as he only has one (this year) 20+ goal season.
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 06:59 PM

Luongo can easily get much more than that. Gustaffson doesn't help us now and Read would be a little bit risky picking up as he only has one (this year) 20+ goal season.


how would you tweek this trade to make it more even?
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:08 PM

Read has only played one season as well.

Do you expect 2 20+ goal seasons in one?
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:20 PM

Read has only played one season as well.

Do you expect 2 20+ goal seasons in one?


im sorry i dont know what your trying to say here. that comment just made no sense for me
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:22 PM

im sorry i dont know what your trying to say here. that comment just made no sense for me


He's saying Read isn't a proven 20+ goal scorer. He could be, but he has only played one year.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:33 PM

Assuming Philly was in need of Lu...
I wouldn't make this trade, Read isn't really proven yet, and neither Gustafsson or a 2nd/3rd round pick are really high value items.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:45 PM

I'd take that, read with Kesler could easily pot 20 again.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 09:32 PM

***only if bryzgalove stays in the KHL because of the lockout****
rumors of players not returning from the KHL after the lockout are very real, and mr. universe might be one of the guys who stays over in russia. that leaves the flyers in a very bad position in net. they dont have brobovski anymore and now they must rely on leighton. not the idea situation. if luo agrees to waive his NTC to go to philly that would give them a very reliable goaltender and assures them they wont fall in the standings because of goaltending.

my trade

To Van: D Erik Gustafsson, RW Matt Read, 2013 2nd + 3rd
To Phi: G Roberto Luongo

we get:
-a good defensive prospect to add to the likes of Connauton, Sauve and Corrado
-a good top 6 winger that can play either on the 2nd or 3rd line. and hes young so he can get better than a 47pts player
-and a couple of draft picks, for this upcoming draft which is suppose to be very deep.

they get:
-an allstar goalie to replace and improve on bryzgalov. there goaltending situation gets resolved for the time being
-they free up some cap space


Various red flags for me on this one:

1.) "they free up some cap space" Where? Gustafsson and Read each makes $900K, Luongo makes $5.3 million.

2.) Gustafsson and Read may be players with a lot of potential, but they are both really lacking in size.

3.) As has been pointed out by others, Read has only had the one good season.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 12:19 PM

Various red flags for me on this one:

1.) "they free up some cap space" Where? Gustafsson and Read each makes $900K, Luongo makes $5.3 million.

2.) Gustafsson and Read may be players with a lot of potential, but they are both really lacking in size.

3.) As has been pointed out by others, Read has only had the one good season.

regards,
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1) bryzgalovs cap hit is 5.666 and lous is 5.333. they free up cap space with that and with read and gustafsson

2) i think we have enough players with size and skill: kassian, jensen, connauton all are big players. read and gustavsson can compliment them i think.

3) they might get better who knows. i was just making an idea

Edited by Red-Haired_Shanks, 08 October 2012 - 12:23 PM.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 01:11 PM

Nope. Holmgren laughs, Bryz hangs up on you.

He won't stay in the KHL, are you crazy?
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Posted 08 October 2012 - 01:38 PM

simmonds straight up? the guy is a plays his heart out every shift young and on a good contract. instant help and could be part of a future core

i dunno if they would part with him but id take it and run
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Posted 08 October 2012 - 04:22 PM

Obviously only works is Bryzgalov doesn't come back.

I think that's a little more than Philly would be willing to pay as well. I'd rather have Simmonds or Voracek straight up for Luongo, But I wouldn't mind Luongo for Read and Gustafsson or Bourdon. Read is a very versatile, useful player.
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