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Will the lockout kill Financially Struggling Teams?

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  1. 1. Will the lockout *kill* teams like Florida?

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So..... with the whole lockout looking to last a long time, this one looks like it wont just complicate CBA talks. but with so many teams struggling financially, I honestly think the lockout could kill a couple teams. We all know Bettman's gong show in Phoenix which is going nowhere, but what about teams like Florida, and Columbus who can't turn profit to save their lives? The NHL is propping them up pretty much, just as they did Atlanta and are still doing Phoenix, but if the lockout cancels the whole season and the league makes no money, what'll happen to those teams?

I personally think a lockout would be good in that regard, and would help get rid of some of those dying teams. It's pathetic when so many teams in a huge league like the NHL can't make money to save their lives.

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It depends on what their fixed expenses are. Some teams may be losing less money during the lockout than they do when they have to pay players' salaries.

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The lockout itself won't kill off anything, but the results of it (loss of revenue, loss of merchandise, loss of exposure, loss of fans & monies resulting from said fans) will hurt teams on the brink such as Phoenix and New Jersey.

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The lockout is actually likely the only way some of these franchises can survive. There's a reason why the owners said they would not play under the old CBA.

There are teams that will pretty much go under if they went one more season with player salaries and the cap floor where it was.

But like others have said, a long term lockout would likely kill those franchises anyways, because unlike fans in Canadian markets, fans in struggling markets have lots of options and will have no problem turning their attention elsewhere.

If you look at it, it took 7 years after the last lockout to build the NHL into what it is now. A lockout now will kill all of that momentum they have been gaining over those 7 years, and we would likely begin to see the NHL's revenue and franchises start to shrink.

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I don't think it would kill any teams this year. But after the next full season(if there's a lockout) I think teams like Phoenix and Columbus will be forced to relocate. Especially with the loss of the all star game for Columbus

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It depends on what their fixed expenses are. Some teams may be losing less money during the lockout than they do when they have to pay players' salaries.

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I would guess that it is the "struggling franchises" that are the driving force behind the lockout in the first place, so my answer would be "no".

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I wish it would, but I doubt it will. As a matter of fact, during lockouts, financially struggling teams make more money than during the actual season, that is, they lose less :P.

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If anything, it saved Phoenix around 30 million dollars.

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If anything, it saved Phoenix around 30 million dollars.

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But it could also hurt any chance of them building momentum from their WCF appearance if they lockout a whole year.

Hockey in Phoenix is already 7th on the depth chart for sports behind Football, Baseball, Basketball, College Football, College Basektball, and Nascar.

Bettman is assuming that all hockey fans are loyal, but in reality, when fans have other options for spending their money, they won't hesitate to turn elsewhere for entertainment.

I would say a year long lockout would kill any chance for Phoenix to become a viable franchise, even if it the chances already were pretty slim.

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No. It HELPS teams by not playing. They were LOSING money.

The owners it hurts are the owners who make money which is about 10 of the 30 teams. And they are pissed off at getting 43% of their own revenue, and then having to cut losses, and then after that passing it around in transfer payments.

Meanwhile the players get 57% guaranteed profit and take no risk whatsoever.

So, yeah, those 10 owners are pretty pissed off. So pissed off they will cancel the whole season and I suggest they simply invite new players to start a new union and carry on with the season.

Ban the NHLPA players from the NHL.

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Depends if they rent or own the arena. Not sure if bonuses have to be paid (Suter & Parise for example).

* Not saying Minny is a struggling team

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sure hope so. remember reading something on forbes about the canucks being one of 3 teams or so (another being montreal iirc) who carry their weight in revenue

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It depends on what their fixed expenses are. Some teams may be losing less money during the lockout than they do when they have to pay players' salaries.

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No.

The reason for the lockout is try to SAVE the financially struggling teams.

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No. It HELPS teams by not playing. They were LOSING money.

The owners it hurts are the owners who make money which is about 10 of the 30 teams. And they are pissed off at getting 43% of their own revenue, and then having to cut losses, and then after that passing it around in transfer payments.

Meanwhile the players get 57% guaranteed profit and take no risk whatsoever.

So, yeah, those 10 owners are pretty pissed off. So pissed off they will cancel the whole season and I suggest they simply invite new players to start a new union and carry on with the season.

Ban the NHLPA players from the NHL.

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Agreed. Just one correction, the players get 57% of gross revenue not profit. Which is a lot more $.

I would love to see the owners bring in replacement players and break the NHLPA.

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^^^

The STL Blues are another pretty established team thats losing a lot of money.

Most ppl think only the few sunbelt teams are losing money. This is not even close to being reality. JD just lost his job in STL because the new ownership wants to trim mgmt costs. He was making $2 mill per year.

The NHL's financial issues need to be resolved in order for it to remain a viable operation. Players should willingly take 50%.

According to Forbes 18 NHL teams lost money in 2010-11. How the players don't see this to be a problem is beyond belief.

Edit Link for Revenues and operating income for last year

http://www.forbes.co...ions/#p_1_s_d0_

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