Will the lockout kill Financially Struggling Teams?

[Canuck Surfer]

No. It HELPS teams by not playing. They were LOSING money.

The owners it hurts are the owners who make money which is about 10 of the 30 teams. And they are pissed off at getting 43% of their own revenue, and then having to cut losses, and then after that passing it around in transfer payments.

Meanwhile the players get 57% guaranteed profit and take no risk whatsoever.

So, yeah, those 10 owners are pretty pissed off. So pissed off they will cancel the whole season and I suggest they simply invite new players to start a new union and carry on with the season.

Ban the NHLPA players from the NHL.

[Canuck Surfer]

Fark me; look at Montreal > 47.7 mill in profit! Gotta learn from madonna; culture = $'s!!!

Or Vancouver's revenue vs Philly who is sooo much more aggressive making deals.

But I guess it is not Vancouver or Philly that is sinking...

^^^

The STL Blues are another pretty established team thats losing a lot of money.

Most ppl think only the few sunbelt teams are losing money. This is not even close to being reality. JD just lost his job in STL because the new ownership wants to trim mgmt costs. He was making $2 mill per year.

The NHL's financial issues need to be resolved in order for it to remain a viable operation. Players should willingly take 50%.

According to Forbes 18 NHL teams lost money in 2010-11. How the players don't see this to be a problem is beyond belief.

Edit Link for Revenues and operating income for last year

http://www.forbes.co...ions/#p_1_s_d0_

[Boudrias]

^^^

The STL Blues are another pretty established team thats losing a lot of money.

Most ppl think only the few sunbelt teams are losing money. This is not even close to being reality. JD just lost his job in STL because the new ownership wants to trim mgmt costs. He was making $2 mill per year.

The NHL's financial issues need to be resolved in order for it to remain a viable operation. Players should willingly take 50%.

According to Forbes 18 NHL teams lost money in 2010-11. How the players don't see this to be a problem is beyond belief.

Edit Link for Revenues and operating income for last year

http://www.forbes.co...ions/#p_1_s_d0_

[WHL rocks]

I thought it was JD who exercised his option since the Blues ownership had changed. He had just been renewed and had a few years left in his contract.

[King of the ES]

I personally think a lockout would be good in that regard, and would help get rid of some of those dying teams. It's pathetic when so many teams in a huge league like the NHL can't make money to save their lives.

[Rink on Renfrew]

First off this isn't a "I hate Gary Bettman" post.

Just wondering here, if 18 teams are losing money and apparently the NHL has never been in better shape, something doesn't add up to me.

We lost a whole year, five (maybe more) years ago, where apparently the players caved to the owners. How on earth do we find ourselves in this predicament again?

I'm sorry but I understand some multi multi millionaires/Billionaires like to have certain businesses have losses due to tax returns etc...

I'm sure someone will correct me and tell me I'm wrong. But I'm starting to think a lot of this is smoke and mirrors.

The whole league needs a audit if you ask me, there's some extremely fishey stuff going on here in my honest opinion. Screw everybody involved. The game had become not only secondary but way far down on the Peking order, with us fans being even lower. /RANT

I've really tried to bite my tongue on these issues but I just had to. I may be way off but at least I got a few things off my chest. Thanks for reading hope I didn't derail the thread.

[Ghostsof1915]

Disband Phoenix and Florida. Hold a dispersal draft. Move the Islanders to Seattle when they have a new arena and Detroit goes to the East.

Problem Solved.

[johngould21]

The NHL is always saying that parity has never been better. I'd believe them if it weren't for the fact that there are very few out-right loses. Those cheap shoot-out wins and a point for the tie, add to each teams point totals creating this myth of parity. Disbanding two teams would create a much better league, and create real parity.

Like GO15, I don't see the Islanders getting a new arena anytime soon, Glendale will not be sold, and disbanding any of Florida, Columbus, T-Bay, Anaheim, and Glendale would be an easy fix.

[Mike Vanderhoek]

I don't believe the lockout will kill any financially struggling teams. There for many years has been rumours and suggestion that there is up to 5 teams that could relocate or fold in the coming years. I think lockout or not a couple teams will move but thats about it and likely not for a couple of years after the resolution of this dispute.

As the last lockout(s) have shown the people will come back and watch the product, buy the memorabilia, etc...but this is happening more and more on the corporate side of things than the average fan who lets face it is all but extinct when it comes to paying for the NHL product.

The financial support will be there, the League's owners have continued to back the current League's team placement.

No teams will be lost as a direct result of this lockout, but relocated as a result of new ownerships down the road.

[Red Light Racicot]

Im thinking there is a chance that the lockout will decimate casual fan bases, and in that way the lockout may directly lead to killing/reclocating some of these sunbelt teams.

But honestly, the decision to put teams in these markets in the first was very poorly thought out and implemented no matter how much a delusional Bettman is in denial about it. These teams are destined to fold/relocate regardless.