-DLC- Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 To address and explain the image that was removed. First of all - to "compare" a young girl's very recent death to anything in a meme that sheds a negative light on her is inappropriate. Let the young girl rest in peace and focus on condolences, as a young girl has died (please) and your timing is WAY off. There is a time/place for meme's, but this is not it. (Also, the language was inappropriate for this site) With that and on a personal note, I don't think it's true (at all) anyways. It's not that "no one cares" if someone deemed unattractive dies - it's more likely it's just not as talked about or published. Yes, because someone is young and pretty, their story is told moreso than if that wasn't the case. That's part of what fuels this beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockhart Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I don't know the whole story, but if this girl is getting "cyber bullied" why didn't she just make her Facebook, twitter or whatever else she was using private for her friends only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsflash Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 RIP Amanda, no one will ever bully you again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai604 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I don't know the whole story, but if this girl is getting "cyber bullied" why didn't she just make her Facebook, twitter or whatever else she was using private for her friends only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowelPower12 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 You might want to read the story. People were making facebook pages about her, and posting nude images of her all over the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No5Butcher Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Part of the issue here is being missed. It is missing in many of the news stories and much of the discussion about what happened to Amanda. From the police comments made, it sounds fairly clear to me that they beleive the person who was sending the pictures out is an adult (the police have also said they beleive he resides in the US). There needs to be a distinction made between these acts and what followed. For someone who is likely an adult to have been blackmailing a fourteen or fifteen year old girl to try and get her to "put on a show" for him is not bullying, nor is followiong up the threat and circulating the pictures. It is a far more heinous act and, though obviously those in her peer groups who bullied her are not without blame, this one individual basically ruined her life due to his thwarted desire to see an underage girl naked. I sincerely hope the police are able to find him and that he spends a very long time in a cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobLoblaw Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 ^ At the very least, it should be investigated as possession of child pornography should it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Part of the issue here is being missed. It is missing in many of the news stories and much of the discussion about what happened to Amanda. From the police comments made, it sounds fairly clear to me that they beleive the person who was sending the pictures out is an adult (the police have also said they beleive he resides in the US). There needs to be a distinction made between these acts and what followed. For someone who is likely an adult to have been blackmailing a fourteen or fifteen year old girl to try and get her to "put on a show" for him is not bullying, nor is followiong up the threat and circulating the pictures. It is a far more heinous act and, though obviously those in her peer groups who bullied her are not without blame, this one individual basically ruined her life due to his thwarted desire to see an underage girl naked. I sincerely hope the police are able to find him and that he spends a very long time in a cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No5Butcher Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 ^ At the very least, it should be investigated as possession of child pornography should it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No5Butcher Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Resides in the US? What is he, a computer hacker? Because she claimed this individual had her personal information. So right away I'm led to believe it was someone local, if not someone at her school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowelPower12 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 You can't fault facebook, people voluntarily join their site you can't hold them responsible. If you're being harassed on facebook delete your account or never join it at all in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No5Butcher Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Where did anyone blame Facebook? Or are you referencing something from pages ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManUtd Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 What a heartbreaking story. Something about it really hits home. It disturbs me. It's infuriating and depressing that anyone could do this to another person. I was bullied for a while in school. The first time I was 11 and actually despite it being much worse I dealt with it a lot better. It lasted a couple months. I did my best to ignore her and for the most part it worked. It wasn't really what she was doing that hurt the most it was that my friends at best did nothing and at worst joined in. That was really hard. I'd already learned I couldn't count on or trust my parents and so it made me realize I really had no one. From that point on I've never really the shook the feeling of being completely alone. There was one day that was particularly bad and I came home and cut for the first time. I've struggled with it ever since. She did eventually stop and just leave me alone. I think she got bored. Then about a year later someone else started. It didn't last very long but it didn't need to in order to trigger a cascade of problems that had been building for a long time. It didn't help that I had been getting progressively more depressed for around 5 years. This time it probably could've been considered cyber bullying. It's one of those things where you wonder why I didn't just remove myself from the situation but I was in such a bad place the thought didn't even cross my mind. Finally there was one night that the person said some things and I'd had it and made my first suicide attempt. By this point I had already been dreaming of dying for a long time but had never really considered actually doing something about it. The thing that really should have tipped me off that something was really wrong was that I wasn't doing it to escape how I felt. I did it because I thought it would make the person feel awful for what they were putting me through. For some reason it really seemed like the best way to get back at them. Fast forward to the present and things still haven't improved a meaningful amount. It's been 11 long years of suffering including a hospitalization and a lot more suicide attempts (though none for quite a while now). I'm growing more and more skeptical that things will ever get better. I've had a lot of supposed help (medication and therapy) over that span and it has been minimally effective. I had one therapist who was amazing but she finished her practicum so I lost her. I'm quitting the new one tomorrow. I'm not sure what I'll do after that but she's doing more harm than good so it's a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avicii Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I'm just gonna ask.. To those saying "she was just 12, it wasn't her fault, she didn't know what she was doing.." If a 12 year old kills a guy, should she be punished? Did the kid know what he/she was doing? RIP Amanda Todd. Your death was tragic, and i send all my condolences to the family. I used to kind of be a bully in elementary, and i stopped because i finally understood the pain it caused others. I owed up to my mistakes, and admitted to everyone that what i did was wrong. The bullies that Amanda had to deal with should owe up to their mistakes. Obviously those kids are f'd up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 To address and explain the image that was removed. First of all - to "compare" a young girl's very recent death to anything in a meme that sheds a negative light on her is inappropriate. Let the young girl rest in peace and focus on condolences, as a young girl has died (please) and your timing is WAY off. There is a time/place for meme's, but this is not it. (Also, the language was inappropriate for this site) With that and on a personal note, I don't think it's true (at all) anyways. It's not that "no one cares" if someone deemed unattractive dies - it's more likely it's just not as talked about or published. Yes, because someone is young and pretty, their story is told moreso than if that wasn't the case. That's part of what fuels this beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFBR392 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I'm just gonna ask.. To those saying "she was just 12, it wasn't her fault, she didn't know what she was doing.." If a 12 year old kills a guy, should she be punished? Did the kid know what he/she was doing? RIP Amanda Todd. Your death was tragic, and i send all my condolences to the family. I used to kind of be a bully in elementary, and i stopped because i finally understood the pain it caused others. I owed up to my mistakes, and admitted to everyone that what i did was wrong. The bullies that Amanda had to deal with should owe up to their mistakes. Obviously those kids are f'd up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFBR392 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 What a heartbreaking story. Something about it really hits home. It disturbs me. It's infuriating and depressing that anyone could do this to another person. I was bullied for a while in school. The first time I was 11 and actually despite it being much worse I dealt with it a lot better. It lasted a couple months. I did my best to ignore her and for the most part it worked. It wasn't really what she was doing that hurt the most it was that my friends at best did nothing and at worst joined in. That was really hard. I'd already learned I couldn't count on or trust my parents and so it made me realize I really had no one. From that point on I've never really the shook the feeling of being completely alone. There was one day that was particularly bad and I came home and cut for the first time. I've struggled with it ever since. She did eventually stop and just leave me alone. I think she got bored. Then about a year later someone else started. It didn't last very long but it didn't need to in order to trigger a cascade of problems that had been building for a long time. It didn't help that I had been getting progressively more depressed for around 5 years. This time it probably could've been considered cyber bullying. It's one of those things where you wonder why I didn't just remove myself from the situation but I was in such a bad place the thought didn't even cross my mind. Finally there was one night that the person said some things and I'd had it and made my first suicide attempt. By this point I had already been dreaming of dying for a long time but had never really considered actually doing something about it. The thing that really should have tipped me off that something was really wrong was that I wasn't doing it to escape how I felt. I did it because I thought it would make the person feel awful for what they were putting me through. For some reason it really seemed like the best way to get back at them. Fast forward to the present and things still haven't improved a meaningful amount. It's been 11 long years of suffering including a hospitalization and a lot more suicide attempts (though none for quite a while now). I'm growing more and more skeptical that things will ever get better. I've had a lot of supposed help (medication and therapy) over that span and it has been minimally effective. I had one therapist who was amazing but she finished her practicum so I lost her. I'm quitting the new one tomorrow. I'm not sure what I'll do after that but she's doing more harm than good so it's a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avicii Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Your comparing a child killing somebody to a child who was coerced into flashing a camera by an older guy that she thought liked her? My god. I'm scared to ask what your take on child pornagraphy is. We better lock those criminally minded children up too. I just don't understand people. This world is truley messed up. We're f'n doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowelPower12 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 lol she wasn't 12 she was 15 where are people getting this from? she definitely knew what she was doing, but she didn't deserve to be bullied to the point it got to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFBR392 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Oh come on, you know what I meant. The big question is, if you're gonna make an argument that she as 12 years old and didnt know what the hell she was doing, if there was a case of a 12 year old kid killing someone, youre taking the same position that the kids only 12 and doesn't know what he/she did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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