SukhKular Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I think everyone is missing the fact that he was not denied entry because he burned the Qur'an but rather because he was arrested and could not prove that all the charges were dropped. That is Canadian policy if you have been arrested and there are charges against you or have been convicted of a crime you must apply for a special acceptance to come to Canada. The border guards only have the info about the arrest that they get from the country of origin. If it doesn't state the charges were completely dropped then anyone would be denied entry regardless of if they burned a holy text or not. My guess is if he had of done his homework to check on his own eligibilty for entrance into Canada they would have warned him about the potential for his prior arrest to hold him at the border. They would probably have also advised to carry with him the documentation to show that the charges for the arrest were dropped. If he had of done that I bet he would have been allowed into Canada within 5 - 10 minutes. This is not a matter of "freedom of speech" rather the fact that Canada does not want other country's criminals coming here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthNinja Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I think everyone is missing the fact that he was not denied entry because he burned the Qur'an but rather because he was arrested and could not prove that all the charges were dropped. That is Canadian policy if you have been arrested and there are charges against you or have been convicted of a crime you must apply for a special acceptance to come to Canada. The border guards only have the info about the arrest that they get from the country of origin. If it doesn't state the charges were completely dropped then anyone would be denied entry regardless of if they burned a holy text or not. My guess is if he had of done his homework to check on his own eligibilty for entrance into Canada they would have warned him about the potential for his prior arrest to hold him at the border. They would probably have also advised to carry with him the documentation to show that the charges for the arrest were dropped. If he had of done that I bet he would have been allowed into Canada within 5 - 10 minutes. This is not a matter of "freedom of speech" rather the fact that Canada does not want other country's criminals coming here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 See post #10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthNinja Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Ok I will rephrase my post: I think everyone (Except DarthNinja_S19Blade) is missing the fact that he was not denied entry because he burned the Qur'an but rather because he was arrested and could not prove that all the charges were dropped. That is Canadian policy if you have been arrested and there are charges against you or have been convicted of a crime you must apply for a special acceptance to come to Canada. The border guards only have the info about the arrest that they get from the country of origin. If it doesn't state the charges were completely dropped then anyone would be denied entry regardless of if they burned a holy text or not. My guess is if he had of done his homework to check on his own eligibilty for entrance into Canada they would have warned him about the potential for his prior arrest to hold him at the border. They would probably have also advised to carry with him the documentation to show that the charges for the arrest were dropped. If he had of done that I bet he would have been allowed into Canada within 5 - 10 minutes. This is not a matter of "freedom of speech" rather the fact that Canada does not want other country's criminals coming here. Better? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Ok I will rephrase my post: I think everyone (Except DarthNinja_S19Blade) is missing the fact that he was not denied entry because he burned the Qur'an but rather because he was arrested and could not prove that all the charges were dropped. That is Canadian policy if you have been arrested and there are charges against you or have been convicted of a crime you must apply for a special acceptance to come to Canada. The border guards only have the info about the arrest that they get from the country of origin. If it doesn't state the charges were completely dropped then anyone would be denied entry regardless of if they burned a holy text or not. My guess is if he had of done his homework to check on his own eligibilty for entrance into Canada they would have warned him about the potential for his prior arrest to hold him at the border. They would probably have also advised to carry with him the documentation to show that the charges for the arrest were dropped. If he had of done that I bet he would have been allowed into Canada within 5 - 10 minutes. This is not a matter of "freedom of speech" rather the fact that Canada does not want other country's criminals coming here. Better? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 There was an insinuation in the OP that this was a loophole/ploy being used by the border to deny him entry into Canada in which case the freedom of speech discussion is still valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Having a prior arrest record is not a loophole, regardless of the circumstance. The person writing the article is either looking for something that isn't there or the pastor is looking for more publicity. The fact is if you have a prior arrest, no matter who you are, you cannot enter Canada. That is not a loophole, that is the law. Therefore the freedom of speech discussion is not valid. Get arrested here and before your court date try to go to the US, see if they allow you entry. If they don't is that a loophole because they don't like you? The bottom line is YOU CANNOT ENTER CANADA WITH A PRIOR ARREST ON YOUR RECORD unless you can show the charges were dropped or you apply for a special permit to enter Canada (which I believe must be done before you get to the border.) NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH VIOLATIONS TO SEE HERE FOLKS!!! PLEASE MOVE ALONG!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Why are you yelling? Did you miss the part where he was acquitted of both charges. They said Jones didn't follow the appropriate protocol and he suggests that he did. If he was unjustly denied entry because of his prior deplorable, yet perfectly legal, conduct would that be an infringement of his rights? That is point of the OP, discuss it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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