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Posted 13 October 2012 - 10:42 PM

Too many complainers on CDC.
Booth is a 22, 31, 23 goal scorer and was on pace for 24 both seasons he was injured, including last year as a Canuck, despite playing on the very hobbled second line and suffering a serious knee injury. In other words, he has been very consistent in averaging 25 goal seasons. His cap hit is what it reasonably costs for a top 6 forward with that kind of production.

He also throws between 100 and 150 hits a year, and skates exceptionally well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHFz2rV0gFU

Booth threw a few other hits where that one came from in that series as well - a notable one where he drilled Richards in turn (not posted on youtube.)
That's the kind of mix of skill and grit that most people were looking for more of.
What's the problem with Booth's game?

constancy , but he was on a great run before he got hit knee on knee hit

that was a shame
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:57 PM

Oh so you support burning down other people's properties and wish "more" than that would happen, but you're sitting here moralizing to us about hunting animals in moderation? You're an idiot and I'm appalled you're not banned from these forums for advocating such activities.


"burning down other people's properties"... is it that simple? those people are abusing animals and laws protect them and their interest. so what should be done? in this case you have to take matters into your own hands and that's what alf has done. and i'm proud of them. and yes, i wish they would've done more because animal abusers don't deserve to live. you're the real idiot for not standing up to the corrupted system and instead you crticize these real heroes.
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 12:37 AM

"burning down other people's properties"... is it that simple? those people are abusing animals and laws protect them and their interest. so what should be done? in this case you have to take matters into your own hands and that's what alf has done. and i'm proud of them. and yes, i wish they would've done more because animal abusers don't deserve to live. you're the real idiot for not standing up to the corrupted system and instead you crticize these real heroes.


Heroes? Seriously? "Take matters into your own hands" - Yes, that's always a great methodology to follow. It's because of people like you, who believe they have to take matters into their own hands, that we have such problems in the world. So I'm assuming then you stand up for someone who would go into an abortion clinic and blow it up, or someone who would massacre people because of their race, religion, or sexual preference? Just so long as they are standing up against the corrupted system right and taking matters into their own hands?

What these people are is a certain degree of terrorists... And you support that? And actually want them to do more, as in kill someone? What I just got from you is that a family, who owns a farm in the middle of some place far away and they survive off the large demand for meat by supplying it, beef, chicken, whatever you might say. But to you, you think they deserve to die, because they are trying to produce as much food which translates into money for them, as possible? Do you listen to yourself talk? It's probably not possible and you must lack a large amount of brain matter between your ears.

You, my friend, might be one of the biggest douches I have ever seen on an internet forum, go take your radical, anarchic beliefs somewhere else. Preferably, back into the tree you crawled down from.
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 12:53 AM

terrorists? seriously? wow...

homophobics that beat gay people are terrorists. christians who are bombing abortion clinics are terrorists. usa government is terrorist. the state of israel is the ultimate terrorist. el kaide is terrorist. not these people.

watch this video and if you still think alf is a terrorist organization, maybe you're the one that should be put to sleep


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Posted 14 October 2012 - 01:19 AM

First of all, I never said I supported animal testing, and by posting that video you just proved to me and everyone else that alf is a terrorist. What are the last words of the PETA message? Don't buy products that use animal testing and SUPPORT local legislation against animal testing, it never said anything about going and burning places down or like you suggested, killing them. So in your mind then, David Booth and every other hunter out there should be "put to sleep" as well then? You probably don't support peta either because they aren't taking matters into their own hands enough, eh? Either way, enjoy your next peta meeting and I'll enjoy even more so the next salmon I catch.
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 03:19 AM

The guy with one goal in his last 18 playoff games and openly admitted to coming here only for the money?

The Wings can have him


And why did Booth come here? I seem to remember he was in tears when he was told the was being traded here. Get a grip, most of them are in it for the money............but only the honest admit it.
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 03:28 AM

terrorists? seriously? wow...

homophobics that beat gay people are terrorists. christians who are bombing abortion clinics are terrorists. usa government is terrorist. the state of israel is the ultimate terrorist. el kaide is terrorist. not these people.

watch this video and if you still think alf is a terrorist organization, maybe you're the one that should be put to sleep

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22vFGc5iGBs

Yeah sure, this is horrible and needs to be stopped, but this doesn't mean that you go in there and do it yourself, killing people in the process. People who are willing to kill other people, just to save a few animals, are just as bad as the people doing the testing. They are terrorists. I hate animal testing because it is cruel and inhumane, but there is nothing wrong with hunting and humanely killing animals. Booth was humane and from what it looks like, didn't be cruel to the animals by making them suffer.
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 03:59 AM

All fair commentary...! Such feedback is consistent with why he was not considered a leader, and commanded $2.5 with us and $3 with Detroit now and not more. A 2nd/3rd line 220 lb winger, with quite reasonably versatile skills who has 50 point / 25 goal potential would easily command that if not quirky.

So again, I was cool with converting Sammy into an younger power forward asset, who is signed and was a component we needed.

But Booth fills one role, while Sammy leaving robbed the 2knd line of it's best play maker and rendered Raymond a fifth wheel. It has remained incomplete since, and both Raymond (we still carry his salary) and Kesler have not been productive. The onus should have been be on Gillis to restock that vacated role last deadline to rejuvenate the 2knd line.





Notes; Danny, Burrows, Booth, Raymond, Higgins and even our "top" prospect (Jensen) were (and are) all natural on the left wing when Booth was acquired. Booth was supposed to be our power forward but logic would dictate another LW and / or Ballard also could have been moved to create space for him and provide the RW we also needed. It also made Hansen our top actual right wing until we got Kassian. Instead we traded our centre and secondary scoring depth to get him. Say what you will about Hodgson, he still filled a role for us now and had potential to do so in the future. Previously we traded for Ballard and signed Hamhuis when we had Edler. That overloaded our left D versus right in similar fashion, compounded when Erhoff left. In 2011/12 Gillis's moves individually all seemed credible but did not result in the balanced team we needed.

This contributed to our demise against L.A. as much as injuries.

:huh: Gillis also gambled that his prize rookie pick up could play one of those roles right away.


I like Samuelsson but he's a quirky player. He was a horrible fit with the Sedins - his puck possession game is very suspect, and he doesn't have the continuity to play with them - he is a risky guy who has his share of brain cramps to go with his flashes of brilliance. I thought he fit best with Torres on the third line - Torres forecheck and hit, turnover, Samuelsson quick strike - an unconventional line that I thought worked well. I liked the fact that Samuelsson playing with Kesler also allowed Raymond to play his natural position - left wing - but it's hard to pass on the opportunity to pick up Booth, particularly when it was always uncertain whether Samuelsson was happy with his role. When he wasn't playing that well (which happened frequently because he is a very streaky guy), it became difficult to find a copacetic fit. I thought his best stretch as a Canuck came after his longest scoring slump when he had to dumb down his game and focus on contributing in a more rounded way. When he stopped trying to score, he complemented his line-mates much better. I liked him, but can certainly live with moving him for Booth. The right RW on that line, and it becomes very difficult to deal with.


Edited by Canuck Surfer, 14 October 2012 - 04:43 AM.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 07:06 AM

"burning down other people's properties"... is it that simple? those people are abusing animals and laws protect them and their interest. so what should be done? in this case you have to take matters into your own hands and that's what alf has done. and i'm proud of them. and yes, i wish they would've done more because animal abusers don't deserve to live. you're the real idiot for not standing up to the corrupted system and instead you crticize these real heroes.

terrorists? seriously? wow...

homophobics that beat gay people are terrorists. christians who are bombing abortion clinics are terrorists. usa government is terrorist. the state of israel is the ultimate terrorist. el kaide is terrorist. not these people.

watch this video and if you still think alf is a terrorist organization, maybe you're the one that should be put to sleep

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22vFGc5iGBs


This guy has to be the BIGGEST idiot I have ever seen on a website forum.. Far worse than they keyboard warriors who try and insult you from a computer. ALF is a terrorist organization, as @tybarber said. So animal abusers don't deserve to live, what about spousal abusers (males OR females)? Murderers? Christ, even speeders, it seems with your IQ (which is classified as "profound retardation", if you must know) don't deserve to live right? So yeah you're right let's just rid of everyone who abuses animals and see this worlds population go down. You're so perfect, I'm guaranteeing you haven't ever done anything wrong in your life.
Terrorist: Noun:
A person who uses terrorism in the pursuit of political aims.

That is what these idiots that you call heroes are doing. They use terrorism to pursue their beliefs of an issue to bring to political attention. And bringing the TOPIC to political and social view is great! But there is no need to "put people to sleep" or "take matters into your own hands". I can bet my life savings that if you were to come up to me or anyone else on this forum and "take matters into your own hands", you'd get "put to sleep" on your silly behind with one shot just like that goat. See what I did there?

Get some education please before you are trying to talk and sound half intelligent. It's people like you that make me wonder about society. Which in turn is probably an explanation to why I'm studying issues like this at UNI.
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 08:02 AM

to all the mindless idiots who think ALF is a terrorist organization: saving an animal from abuse is not terrorism. when you're claiming what alf is doing wrong, basically you're saying it's ok to hurt animals, because your worthless laws won't lift a finger to punish those who commit the crime. if alf doesn't do anything, who's gonna fight for those animals' rights? but i'm guessing you could care less about what happened to those animals, right? that's why you will never understand the hatred that i have for animal abusers, because you're not animal lovers like me. i wish they would conduct those horrible experiments on you instead those helpless creatures.
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 08:42 AM

to all the mindless idiots who think ALF is a terrorist organization: saving an animal from abuse is not terrorism. when you're claiming what alf is doing wrong, basically you're saying it's ok to hurt animals, because your worthless laws won't lift a finger to punish those who commit the crime. if alf doesn't do anything, who's gonna fight for those animals' rights? but i'm guessing you could care less about what happened to those animals, right? that's why you will never understand the hatred that i have for animal abusers, because you're not animal lovers like me. i wish they would conduct those horrible experiments on you instead those helpless creatures.


That is the first intelligent thing I have heard you say, since well, forever. Good job, it may be a trend.
When ALF is burning peoples property down and putting animal abusers to sleep, or brainwashing profoundly retarded incompetent idiots like you, that my friend, is a form of terrorism. Punishment would be a sentence of prison, or community service. That sounds like a fair punishment. You REALLY and let me stress REALLY need to get an an education, because we're just schooling you. If animals were as technologically and intellectually advanced as us, and we were just roamers of the earth, you can BET that they would do these things to us too.

Any other stupid things you want me to make you feel dumb about?

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 08:58 AM

Punishment would be a sentence of prison, or community service.


so where's that punishment? tell me. i don't see any animal abuser doing time or community service. i keep saying laws don't protect the animals, yet you keep repeating yourself with the same bullsh**t.

and where did you get the idea that you make me feel dumb you retarded hillbilly?
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 09:19 AM

This one's going WAY off topic. Please, let's stick to the hockey discussion (at least in this particular thread). There is a hunting thread that is more appropriate for the non hockey related content....
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 10:22 AM

And why did Booth come here? I seem to remember he was in tears when he was told the was being traded here. Get a grip, most of them are in it for the money............but only the honest admit it.

Apples and Oranges, Bodee. Booth came here in a trade, Samuelson was a UFA.
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 12:48 PM

Apples and Oranges, Bodee. Booth came here in a trade, Samuelson was a UFA.

Apples and Oranges, Bodee. Booth came here in a trade, Samuelson was a UFA.


Fair enough but I do seem to remember that when Sammy was told he had been traded he looked devastated........that was a trade wasn't it.
What is this lockout about if it's not about money?
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 01:50 PM

maybe if you find it rotting in the woods. fresh bear meat has no worms nor is it rancid. maybe you should stop taking out your anus.
http://www.theatlant...h-trying/67024/

also, I had bear numerous times growing up in the prairies, it's quite good.

honestly, do you really think bears just walk around ridden with worms?

the meat can sour fast if you don't disembowel it shortly after killing it, but any experienced hunter knows this and takes care of it quickly.


Bear is delicious, bears close to the city eat a lot of garbage, hence the worms. But bears in the wild and rural areas that eat a normal bear diet are delicious and tender and healthy animals
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 01:50 PM

maybe if you find it rotting in the woods. fresh bear meat has no worms nor is it rancid. maybe you should stop taking out your anus.
http://www.theatlant...h-trying/67024/

also, I had bear numerous times growing up in the prairies, it's quite good.

honestly, do you really think bears just walk around ridden with worms?

the meat can sour fast if you don't disembowel it shortly after killing it, but any experienced hunter knows this and takes care of it quickly.


Bear is delicious, bears close to the city eat a lot of garbage, hence the worms. But bears in the wild and rural areas that eat a normal bear diet are delicious and tender and healthy animals
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 01:50 PM

maybe if you find it rotting in the woods. fresh bear meat has no worms nor is it rancid. maybe you should stop taking out your anus.
http://www.theatlant...h-trying/67024/

also, I had bear numerous times growing up in the prairies, it's quite good.

honestly, do you really think bears just walk around ridden with worms?

the meat can sour fast if you don't disembowel it shortly after killing it, but any experienced hunter knows this and takes care of it quickly.


Bear is delicious, bears close to the city eat a lot of garbage, hence the worms. But bears in the wild and rural areas that eat a normal bear diet are delicious and tender and healthy animals
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 09:45 AM

I would not call this thread "derailed". The second post was a set of picture of him hunting. It started on this track, for better or worse...I honestly wonder why people even post David Booth topics knowing what it will become.

the second post was a great joke and nothing more.
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 11:08 AM

I definitely can see Booth lighting it up whenever the season begins. He has the build and speed, and has been known to show some skill with the hands, he just need Kes to pass every now and again.

As for him hunting, I think everyone here knows you're only a real man if you can kill a defenseless wild animal with a modern weapon from a distant range. Real man-like.
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 11:58 AM

First of all, I never said I supported animal testing, and by posting that video you just proved to me and everyone else that alf is a terrorist. What are the last words of the PETA message? Don't buy products that use animal testing and SUPPORT local legislation against animal testing, it never said anything about going and burning places down or like you suggested, killing them. So in your mind then, David Booth and every other hunter out there should be "put to sleep" as well then? You probably don't support peta either because they aren't taking matters into their own hands enough, eh? Either way, enjoy your next peta meeting and I'll enjoy even more so the next salmon I catch.


No, but they help fund those that do. PETA is a wonderful organization.....

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/trial/

http://origin.wtsp.c...euthanasia-rate

http://www.consumerf...-the-real-deal/

http://activistcash....ment-of-animals

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/


I donate to the BCSPCA every year. I wouldn't give PETA a bent nickle.The SPCA manages to adopt out 35 to 45% of the adoptable animals they receive while PETA adopts out less than 10%. Likely because the SPCA always gives their animals two weeks to be adopted while PETA often puts animals down in 24 hours or less. PETA is more interested in funding it's public cause than actually helping the animals that are put in their care. Their slogan should be "Don't do tests on animals, just give them to us to kill".


Btw, I have no problem with Booth as a player or a person. He had a decent season considering his injuries and linemates. My only criticism is he could work on his backchecking.
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 04:43 PM

This one's going WAY off topic. Please, let's stick to the hockey discussion (at least in this particular thread). There is a hunting thread that is more appropriate for the non hockey related content....


This threads gone crazy. Reign it in, Deb! ;)
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 04:53 PM

No, but they help fund those that do. PETA is a wonderful organization.....

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/trial/

http://origin.wtsp.c...euthanasia-rate

http://www.consumerf...-the-real-deal/

http://activistcash....ment-of-animals

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/


I donate to the BCSPCA every year. I wouldn't give PETA a bent nickle.The SPCA manages to adopt out 35 to 45% of the adoptable animals they receive while PETA adopts out less than 10%. Likely because the SPCA always gives their animals two weeks to be adopted while PETA often puts animals down in 24 hours or less. PETA is more interested in funding it's public cause than actually helping the animals that are put in their care. Their slogan should be "Don't do tests on animals, just give them to us to kill".


Btw, I have no problem with Booth as a player or a person. He had a decent season considering his injuries and linemates. My only criticism is he could work on his backchecking.


Good to know, thanks for that. I actually had seen somewhere post all these shenanigans that were sending money towards the alf and whatever else organizations as well, so yeah...

Also, more on topic, totally agree with you about Booth as well, I see a lot of potential for him and think he is set up pretty well to succeed on this team, I just feel like (not that I really know anyways) he should put more effort into training in the offseason... Doesn't seem to do too much of that, from what I gather.
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 09:10 AM

You all must be aware that nobody eats bear right? Bear meat is ridden with worms, smells like garbage, and is rancid. Booth shot that bear for sport - in other words, just for the thrill of killing it.


I eat bear all the time. In fact I have a freezer full of game meat including bear steaks and most importantly bear sausage and jerky.

The reality is the meat is actually quite good. You don't know what you're talking about. Bear; like any other game, is very very edible. Hell if you find old cookbooks before beef became the meat to rule them all you'd find several recipes using bear meat. Hell I have a very old "Gourmet Cookbook" that has a few bear meat recipes.
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 08:49 AM

I eat bear all the time. In fact I have a freezer full of game meat including bear steaks and most importantly bear sausage and jerky.

The reality is the meat is actually quite good. You don't know what you're talking about. Bear; like any other game, is very very edible. Hell if you find old cookbooks before beef became the meat to rule them all you'd find several recipes using bear meat. Hell I have a very old "Gourmet Cookbook" that has a few bear meat recipes.


Judging by the photo, you need to lay off the bear meat for a while. :lol:
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 09:01 AM

Judging by the photo, you need to lay off the bear meat for a while. :lol:


That's from the penguin I ate. Tough little bugger, the beak really blocked me up.
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 10:42 AM

I would like to try some bear meat. Sounds delicious.
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 10:54 AM

I would like to try some bear meat. Sounds delicious.

it really is.
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 02:41 PM

Bear sausage... mmmm
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 03:21 PM

Bear sausage... mmmm


I hope that's not a euphemism. :P
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