Sharpshooter Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 ‘It’s for your good. Let me finish’: Afghan-Canadian mother told police she stabbed her daughter with a kitchen knife Sep 26, 2012 11:08 PM ET MONTREAL – For months, Bahar Ebrahimi had been rebelling against her parents, complaining their Afghan culture and Muslim religion were suffocating her. “I want to enjoy my life. I want to feel what the other ones feel,” she told them, according to her mother’s statement to police. It was June, 2010, Grand Prix weekend in downtown Montreal, and on two straight nights the 19-year-old stayed out past dawn against her parents’ wishes. For her mother, Johra Kaleki, the behaviour confirmed that all her efforts to steer her eldest daughter on the right path had failed. “I felt like she would never be fixed,” she told Sgt.-Det. Alexandre Bertrand in an interrogation video played Wednesday in Quebec Court. As her crying husband spoke to Bahar in the basement of their Dorval home, Ms. Kaleki went upstairs and grabbed a large knife from the kitchen counter, the one she used to chop meat, she recounted. “I said, ‘This is the time.’ ” She hid the knife under her T-shirt, returned to the basement, and told her husband the problem would best be resolved between mother and daughter. “Just leave us alone for five minutes,” she said she told him. “Don’t come until I call you.” He left and she cuddled her first-born and told her to lie on her stomach so she could give her a back massage. “Then I stab her, stab her neck,” she confessed. “She said, ‘No Mom!’ I said, ‘It’s for your good. Let me finish.’ ” Earlier in the interrogation, Sgt.-Det. Bertrand has asked whether the knife blade was sharp. “No, it wasn’t,” she replied. “I wish it was. I wanted to give her the peace that she needed.” Bahar survived the attack, suffering serious knife wounds to her head and shoulder. Ms. Kaleki, 40, is charged with attempted murder, aggravated assault and illegal use of a weapon. Her husband, alerted by Bahar’s screams, rushed downstairs and grabbed the knife from Ms. Kaleki, the court heard. “I said to my husband, let me finish her.’ ” She tried to choke her daughter, she said, and after Bahar escaped, she chased her upstairs and tried to break down the locked door to the bedroom where she was calling 911. She was arrested, and after being treated in hospital for a knife wound on her own arm, she told her story to Sgt.-Det. Bertrand. Then I stab her, stab her neck. She said, ‘No Mom!’ I said, It’s for your good. Let me finish The first night Bahar stayed out late, informing her parents she was downtown enjoying a concert, they went to the local police station to file a report, Ms. Kaleki said. The officer told them there was nothing that could be done. “He said, ‘She’s safe. Don’t worry. She’s a teenager.’ ” But the idea of a rebellious teenage girl was foreign to her parents. They expected Bahar to be home by 11 p.m. and not to smoke, drink or have boyfriends. After the second night, when Bahar said she had spent much of the evening walking along St. Laurent Blvd., Ms. Kaleki was horrified. “I asked her, ‘Are you a prostitute? Are you a whore?’ ” she said. A few months earlier, when Ms. Kaleki discovered Bahar was being harassed by an ex-boyfriend, she blamed her daughter. After speaking to the boy once on the phone, Ms. Kaleki decided he sounded like “a very good Muslim guy” and told Bahar he would make a good husband. “Probably you’ve done something to drive him crazy,” she told her. “I know you. You’re my daughter.” Bahar refused the idea of marriage, calling the boy a “psycho.” Toward the end of the four-hour interview, the detective asked Ms. Kaleki whether she had anything to add. “I hope she gets well,” she said referring to her daughter. But she did not want her to emerge unscarred. “She live with that wound,” she continued, pointing to her neck, “she remembers me.” The experience “will make her strong and give her wisdom. . . . It means she will give up her ways of living.” The hearing this week before Judge Yves Paradis is to determine whether the video and other statements made by Ms. Kaleki can be entered into evidence during the trial, which is scheduled to begin in January. Ms. Kaleki’s defence lawyer has said she will argue that Ms. Kaleki did not have the “operating mind” necessary to consent to the interrogation. The hearing continues Thursday. http://news.national...-kitchen-knife/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellins Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Ah, but given her heinous actions, the mother isn't a true Muslim so we should disregard her religious beliefs /sarcasm Seriously though the way her comments read, she does sound touched in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks_dynasty Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I'm glad the father stopped the crazy mother. It sickens me to hear a parent harming their own child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Afghamenopause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai604 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 For frack's sake. That is messed up. The mother is more than just "touched". She's deluded and a psychopath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 I'm glad the father stopped the crazy mother. It sickens me to hear a parent harming their own child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowelPower12 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I don't care if I sound racist, but a large majority of these people are completely fracked in the head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 A smart Mother coerces the father into doing it .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Me too. Though we hear that it's usually the father or a male member of the family that are the perpetrators in these kind of 'honour killing' attempts, from these cultures. I presume that it's rare for the mother to be the one leading the charge, but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 I don't care if I sound racist, but a large majority of these people are completely fracked in the head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 I would think that it would depend on the dynamic of the parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowelPower12 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I didn't say all, I'm not condemning them as a group I'm sure you're right there are some "lovely and amazing" muslims I just hear far too many stories like this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I didn't say all, I'm not condemning them as a group I'm sure you're right there are some "lovely and amazing" muslims I just hear far too many stories like this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 I didn't say all, I'm not condemning them as a group I'm sure you're right there are some "lovely and amazing" muslims I just hear far too many stories like this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Canada: Mother's throat slit in alleged honor killing Toronto : Canada | Oct 11, 2012 at 5:32 AM PDT By Karl Gotthardt Muslim women protets agains violence and abuse. Toronto is the scene of yet another "honor killing." 65-year-old Peer Khairi is on trial after his wife, Randjida Khairi, was found with several stab wounds on her body and her throat slit. Pathologists determined that she was stabbed with two knives and that she drowned in her own blood, a process that took between five to 10 minutes. The victim was married to her killer for 30 years and was found on a cot in Toronto in an apartment on the 16th floor. At issue is not whether her husband killed her, but how her death occurred and what was going through Khairi's mind. There is plenty of evidence with images of the crime scene and the accompanying pathology report. Peer Khairi is a new arrival from Afghanistan, a country with a patriarchial society, where women obey their husbands. Khariri was struggling with Canadian culture and his wife's permissive nature, allowing their six children to drift from the culture and rules of their country of birth. In Afghanistan young girls and women disobey the head of the family at their own peril. That is the fact in Afghan society, a fact NATO and UN non-governmental organizations have tried to change, apparently with little success. The court was told that Randjida Khairi had been thinking about leaving her husband and that she had talked to other people, at times complete strangers, about her dilemma. Peer Khairi felt disrespected and betrayed by his children. Khari has pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder and it is up to a jury, composed of four women and eight men, to sift through the arguments and evidence. The jury is multi-ethnic consisting of a mixture of old and young, brown and white and black and all hues in between. Honor Killings in Canada This is a more common phenonena in Canada than most Canadians would like to believe. The last high-profile case was concluded in January of this year, when another Afghan man enlisted his son and wife in a "cold-blooded, shameful and twisted' case to drown his former spouse and three teenage daugthers. An article in the Vancouver Sunhighlights some of these honor killings, which are on the rise in Canada. While honour killings are more prevalent in the Muslim world, the killing of one's child is almost beyond believe for Canadians. Unfortunately, these killings are increasingly popping up in Canadian courtrooms. First generation Muslims struggle with the balance of the old-world ways and that of a permissive, liberal, Canadian society. On June 16, the father and brother of a slain Mississauga, Ont., teen were sentenced to life in prison after pleading guilty to the December 2007 murder of Aqsa Parvez, a 16-year-old girl of Pakistani descent who wanted to wear western clothes and get a part-time job like her Canadian peers. Days ago, an Afghan mother was arrested in Montreal, accused of stabbing her 19-year-old daughter after she stayed out all night in a case that's now being probed as a possible honour crime. And then there's the case last year of Muhammad Shafia, his second wife, Tooba Muhammad Yahya, and their son, Hamed Shafia, accused of killing Shafia's first wife and three daughters, who were found in a vehicle submerged in a canal in Kingston, Ont. According to a report by Dr. Amin Muhammad, a psychiatrist at Memorial University in St. John's, Newfoundland, there have been 13 such killings since 2002. He says that we are seeing an uptrend in these killings an that these killings are not connected to the teachings of the Quran. He feels that they are most often used as a defence for those who want to take advantage of Canada's cultural sensitivities in order to receive a more lenient sentence. While honor killings are disturbing and incomprehensible to Canadians at large, this should not bee seen as a crisis. Many Muslims immigrate to Canada each year and integrate into Canadian society. Their children attend our schools, learn Canadian culture and adapt to our way of life. The problem of suicide killings seems to be the exception, rather than the rule. We, as a society, and those within the Muslim community, have a duty to identify these anomalies and try to intervene before the cruel killings occur. It is stories like this and and the OP's that turn my intense dislike of religion, into a simmering hatred . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowelPower12 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Today a bunch of atheists killed eachother over who doesn't believe in god more, oh wait that never happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICanucksfan5551 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Is it just me, or is it often Afghanis is stories like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 Is it just me, or is it often Afghanis is stories like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Light Racicot Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Today a bunch of atheists killed eachother over who doesn't believe in god more, oh wait that never happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICanucksfan5551 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Afghanis, Pakistani's, and others i'm sure. Although, the one commonality that I seem with most 'honour killing' incidences, the thread of commonality seems to be the Islamic religion. There have been some cases of Sikh 'honour killings' as well in Canada and India too though, over the decades. One quite famous one as I recall, but as of late it seems to be the muslims making the headlines in this area. Maybe the Sikhs figured things out? I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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