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#1 Hank Moody

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:00 AM

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Now this has been stemming for a while now going back a couple years because of horrid officiating, the countless number of questionable suspensions and decisions made by the league, and the general double standards the league has portrayed.

As much as I will always be a huge hockey fan, I just don't feel as die hard as I used to. The last lockout, I was devastated. Every day was grueling because there was no hockey in sight and I would've done anything to get hockey back.

This time around, I'm starting to care less and less because I'm just fed up with what this league is turning into. It used to be about hockey, players staying loyal to their teams and defining themselves in a certain franchise. Now it's a league of lucrative deals, what have you done for me lately fan bases, and who can buy the bigger yacht with their signing bonuses. I applaud Shane Doan for being the only guy in recent memory to stay truly loyal to a franchise.

This lockout has pushed me so much toward the NFL and Soccer based on the great storylines brewing, and the great ways these leagues are being run (despite the whole replacement ref debacle, which the NFL quickly fixed) that I don't think I'll ever be as big a hockey fan as I used to be.

How are others feeling? Obviously well all be coming back when we have hockey, but to what extent? Are you going to be as crazy for hockey this time around knowing the league is so unstable?
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:25 AM

Honestly, with how it's turned out so far, I'm honestly over hockey, at least for now.

I wouldn't be surprised if people were turned off from the game. I have moved on.

The NHL(which includes the players too) may be making millions or billions of dollars, but it can't seem to grasp reality with that money.

I'm sure not all hockey players are represented accurately in the media via Donald Fehr (i.e. the Sedins who don't seem to care that much about money). But neither side is really negotiating in good faith, especially the owners' side.

There should be an arbitrator stepping in at some point, but honestly, I have better things to do than read about the drama that goes on between them.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:39 AM

I'm not feeling that bad about the lockout.

I've got European football and other sports to keep me occupied, and I've lost interest a little bit with everything that's gone on since the end of last season.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:54 AM

The owners and players are a joke, I hope the NHL loses most of it's fans.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 12:03 PM

If I wasn't such a huge Blazers fan I might be devastated.

I've just shifted my focus over towards the WHL, hasn't even felt like a lockout to me tbh
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 12:37 PM

I'm not feeling that bad about the lockout.

I've got European football and other sports to keep me occupied, and I've lost interest a little bit with everything that's gone on since the end of last season.

I've found myself more consumed by football than Hockey. It was always the other way around until this year.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 12:46 PM

I live 30 minutes from the Windsor-Detoit border so I have the Lions, Tigers (woot!) and Pistons.

I will always be a die-hard Canucks fan though. When this lockout ends I will still be on these boards, the NHL website, and various rumor/news sites more than I should.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 01:15 PM

I've switched to watching NFL and CFL and soon to be NBA. Never have I enjoyed MLB. To be honest I miss hockey deeply but I'm still super pissed off.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 01:17 PM

I've found myself more consumed by football than Hockey. It was always the other way around until this year.


At this moment I'm quite prepared to take a full year off, and come back in October 2013 excited about the sport again once this mess is all sorted.

I'm going to get a lot more of much needed sleep this year too.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 01:27 PM

I live 30 minutes from the Windsor-Detoit border so I have the Lions, Tigers (woot!) and Pistons.

I will always be a die-hard Canucks fan though. When this lockout ends I will still be on these boards, the NHL website, and various rumor/news sites more than I should.


but the lions suck tho lol
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 02:05 PM

No. I miss hockey.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 02:07 PM

I'm not watching hockey but I do miss it.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 02:08 PM

Yep, I'm exactly the same. I'm so bitter from the last couple seasons of terrible biased officiating, horrible league management and the return to clutch and grab hockey that I could care less what this joke of a league does. Honestly I had no idea that the season was supposed to start a couple days ago, and normally I get the hockey itch months in advance.

I hope this league crumbles as a result of their greed.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 03:07 PM

If I wasn't such a huge Blazers fan I might be devastated.

I've just shifted my focus over towards the WHL, hasn't even felt like a lockout to me tbh


You and I both.


I've not really noticed the NHL lockout, because I've put nearly ALL of my focus into the Blazers. As well as football...

As for your question, OP, I feel more die-hard as a hockey fan than ever. I'm upset, but longing for the professional game more than ever. I've become far more focused in the hockey thats actually being played, and because of the work stoppages, I'll have a far greater appreciation for the game once it returns...considering, it could very well lockout seven years down the road and there is nothing I can do about it.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 03:07 PM

In Canada and big markets in the states most people will run back to the arenas purchasing tickets, jersey's, food concessions and pay for parking. Just like a crack addicts desperately searching for their next fix. The players know this and so do the owners. Neither of them care or play for the love of the game. The fans are the only ones still in for the love of game.

I have been a huge Canucks fan for 36 years, through all the ups and downs. This is one fan that is not going back. Neither the players or the NHL will get another dime from me. This is the only way that we can send a message to both greedy parties. I live in Fort McMurray and have to purchase the NHL Center Ice online package to watch Canucks games, they will not be getting my $150.00 bucks this year. Screw that .

Not quite sure if this is fact or not, but have heard it on both TSN and Sportsnet. The NHLPA wants a 4 year deal on this next CBA and the NHL would like a 6 year deal. If this is the case, it's another reason why I won't be back. Both greedy parties will get to do it all over again in 4 to 6 years. Has anyone else heard this? Money: Root Of All Evil
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 03:12 PM

In Canada and big markets in the states most people will run back to the arenas purchasing tickets, jersey's, food concessions and pay for parking. Just like a crack addicts desperately searching for their next fix. The players know this and so do the owners. Neither of them care or play for the love of the game. The fans are the only ones still in for the love of game.

I have been a huge Canucks fan for 36 years, through all the ups and downs. This is one fan that is not going back. Neither the players or the NHL will get another dime from me. This is the only way that we can send a message to both greedy parties. I live in Fort McMurray and have to purchase the NHL Center Ice online package to watch Canucks games, they will not be getting my $150.00 bucks this year. Screw that .

Not quite sure if this is fact or not, but have heard it on both TSN and Sportsnet. The NHLPA wants a 4 year deal on this next CBA and the NHL would like a 6 year deal. If this is the case, it's another reason why I won't be back. Both greedy parties will get to do it all over again in 4 to 6 years. Has anyone else heard this? Money: Root Of All Evil


I'm sure the NHL isn't going to miss your $150.00, considering they pull in upwards of $3 billion...

That said, I respect your decision and trying to "stick it to the man", so to speak. I wish there were more like you, to teach the league a lesson.

Unfortunately I (like many others) am too weak to actually boycott hockey.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 03:41 PM

Not missing hockey as much as I had thought that I would be. Chalk it up mainly due to the fact that the NHL is a joke of a league and will continue to be, so long with Gary Bettman at the helm. Hell, put a damn monkey in his place and see the league perform much better.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 03:49 PM

Not missing hockey as much as I had thought that I would be. Chalk it up mainly due to the fact that the NHL is a joke of a league and will continue to be, so long with Gary Bettman at the helm. Hell, put a damn monkey in his place and see the league perform much better.


Best players in the world are a joke?

Good one, Gretzky.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 04:03 PM

I agree with you. To be quite honest, I haven't missed it at all. Maybe I'll start to once it gets further into the season, but as for right now I don't really care.

The NHL is slowly declining year after year, getting more boring as well. Do you guys remember the old NHL and how awesome it used to be to watch all the games? I know the league is trying to protect their players, but it's gone too far now. Everybody is scared to hit because they might get a ridiculous suspension handed out to them. (Cough Shanahan**)

Aside from that, I see very inconsistent reffing, doesn't matter who is playing. Players diving all over the place. Shameless. It made me sick how many dives there were in the SC Playoffs this year. Have players not got any respect for one and other? Are they trying to win cheaply?

I'm quite happy there's a lockout. Gives everyone time to think about what they can do to bring back the goodness of the game again.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 04:06 PM

I can fully agree with you OP, for some time now I have also been thinking the same way and it did start pretty much just after the last lockout in 2004. I also don't like how I have seen how hard the NHL has tried to help out American franchises in this league, and pretty much just ignore all Canadian franchises. For one that has been a major turn off for me and the way the NHL is running this sport, but a lot also has to do with the officiating in the game now a days. I remember back in the 90's being a die hard fan, games just seemed to be more intense and more exciting, with all the new rules now a days and refs calling make up calls and brutal calls all the time it has ruined the game I feel. I don't find it as exciting as it used to be, because you can always predict when a ref is going to make a call in a game just to make up for something before and I don't agree with deciding a game like that.

I also feel players are more like babies now than back in the 90's, players in the 90's were tough and battled through pain and fought for their team and protected their team. Now I feel more players are scared to do anything, they get a little scratch on their finger they sit out the next 3 games to heal up, because they are not tough like they used to be and it's embarrassing. It's the intensity I think that is the biggest change in players, they just aren't willing to fight as hard to win like they used to. Back in the 90's it made it more exciting to follow a certain player or team, because they would give it their all game in and game out no matter what, you just don't see it like that as much anymore, and yes a lot of it can be blamed on the NHL as well for all the new rules in the game which sucks.

In my opinion how this league needs to improve this game and make it exciting again like it was back in the 90's is one thing make the rinks Olympic size. Of course it's not as easy as 1,2,3, and of course it would cost a lot as well to either transform pre exciting rinks or build new ones, but I can honestly say it would help this game out BIG TIME and I mean big time. This game needs to be more exciting again and more entertaining, and to why more open ice would achieve this. You see it in overtime when the teams play 4 on 4 hockey, it's really exciting, because there is all this extra ice to see these players play to their best abilities. During the games when it's 5 on 5 you don't get to see this as much, because players now compared to back in the 90's can cover a lot more ice then they used to because they are all much bigger, faster, and smarter positionally, which eliminates all the extra ice and makes it much harder to make something happen on the ice you don't have space or time to do anything which makes it boring.

Why were the 90's so much more exciting? Because players weren't as skilled as they are now or coached as well positionally, so back in the 90's the real skilled ones had a lot more open ice to do things which made the game exciting and this is what the game is lacking open ice. The other advantage of having a bigger ice surface is simple injuries, with more ice means more room, which then means more time to think and see the ice when you have the puck, basically more time to react to do something, which is pretty smart. It will cut down on the amount of concussions in the game, because players will have the proper time to make a play instead of just worrying about getting leveled as soon as they touch the puck. The biggest concern for the players is their health of course, but with all these concussions happening it's starting to become obvious players just don't' have enough time to react on the ice because as soon as they touch the puck they have about 1 second to decide what to do, it's not enough time.

I know other people will disagree, but I also know people will agree, but that is the way I feel and what I really believe will help the NHL and it's players altogether for the future to make this game one, more exciting again, two safer for everyone playing the game, and even three to give the refs a better opportunity to make the right calls on the ice because they are able to have a better view of what's going.

And yes I know this will end up costing a franchise a lot of money or the NHL to make something big like this to happen, and to why it is so easy to say they wouldn't ever agree on something like this. Well you may be right, but the NHL will never get better as a sport in my opinion, it will only just keep getting worse and worse, unless a change like the one I proposed is done for the better of the sport and for the future of this sport.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 05:36 PM

I'm with uuuuu! NHL stay true
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 06:09 PM

I feel genuinely sorry for all those poor schmucks who seem to think that no NHL= no hockey. Me, I'm being fully entertained by streaming KHL games and the Victoria Royals playing live in my hometown. Also I am eagerly anticipating the WJC (which should be excellent this year with all the best juniors available) and the WHC (ditto). I actually hope that the NHL lockout lasts at least two seasons so that some of the foolishly located teams go broke and some of the fly by night fans go elsewhere.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 06:17 PM

No. When hockey comes back on i will be watching all the NHL hockey i can take in. Until then watching the Kootenay Ice and the local Junior B team.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 06:29 PM

I'm playing a lot more ice hockey now that there's no more NHL.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 09:55 PM

I think I'll strap some skates back on myself this winter and play some pick-up with my buddies...get back to the purity of the game.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 10:34 PM

if anything the lockout is making me feel more passionate

thinking about how burrows and the twins should have been lighting up the flames the other night PISSES ME OFF

it sucks ,it really does, but atleast local whl and other markets are going to have alot more eyes on them not close to the same tho
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 10:42 PM

i am from oz so no ancillary hockey for me, our playing season is over till may. i follow the cycling, but they dont start again till January. Im generally pretty bummed, was going to sign up for AHL but it seems a bit crap by all reports, cant they hire the sportsnet guys to improve thier broadcast? Just watched the highlights and they were hard to watch.
Remember that movie Good Will Hunting-where Ben afflek goes to his mates house everyday hoping he has left town? Thats how I feel about the lockout, I check TSN every day just hoping....
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 01:20 PM

I've been a fan since well before any kind of a lock out... As the days pass I am not even noticing there is no hockey. I also agree with the OP about how the game has declined over the years with the officiating etc. I'm sure I will watch it again when it comes back, I am still coming here and checking in for info.

I live in Calgary, so I will only be catching the games on CBC and Sportsnet when they play the fLames or the cOilers... This year if hockey does come back I will not be purchasing the Center Ice Pack as I have done for the last 6 years, nor will I ever purchase it again. They have made me lose interest with their squabbling. I do not agree with the league using a lock out as a bargaining tool, I also don't like it that the league wants to go back on contracts they have already signed with players.

I think the players should have just signed the deal already as they will lose more money than they would have lost from the roll back. I disagree with the players going to other leagues and playing for less money there, as well as taking jobs from other players who have to make a living, who are not going to be getting paid now because of them.

I also have to agree with the fellow who wrote the open letter to the NHLPA that it makes me feel like the players are willing to play for less in other markets, but expect huge dollars here.... it makes me feel like they dont care about me as a fan, and I'm sure they don't. They just care about their pay check...

The couple of hundred bucks from the Center Ice Pack I usually buy isnt going to put a big dent in their pockets, but I'm not doing this to make a stand or anything of the sort... I just simply don't care anymore, they have lost me.
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 01:40 PM

I've honestly felt the exact same way.

Every year that passes, winning the cup just doesn't have that same appeal that it used to.

Part of it comes with the bs officiating that's tainted the cup. And with that, many of our greatest players may never win. The fact that they should have but didn't leaves such a bitter taste so that winning the cup in a few years would be nothing compared to 2011 or even 1994.

And then the lockout is the straw that broke the camel's back. Why should I come back...again? I just sat through a lockout a few years ago only to witness garbage officiating and suspensions. And the predictability of the playoffs is a joke now. There's no reason to watch when I already know who's going to win. This is why I didn't watch the playoffs last year once the Canucks were out.

I think I've come to the conclusion that once the Sedins have retired, I'm not going to follow that closely anymore. What's the point
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 02:10 PM

I'm supporting the WHL instead. I will always want good things for the Canucks. But this lockout has seriously strained my love of the NHL. My contempt for both sides to get a deal done has seriously turned me off.
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