King of the ES Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Actually in that post you said. "If you think Toronto, or anyone else, would even take a whiff of Bryzgalov, you are dreaming." I don't see a might in there. Just more contradiction really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 For what you guys were proposing, yes. IE, a hockey trade. Back in the day, I recall SJ taking somebody off of NJ's hands, maybe it was Vladimir Malakhov, and NJ effectively game them Malakhov and a 1st, for something totally immaterial (conditional pick maybe). NJ did that solely to take Malakhov off of their payroll. Philly would need to do something similar with Bryz, at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorFutureGM Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 Lots of GMs tell their players they are not going to be traded..then they get traded. NHL is a business any GMwill try to make his team more competitive dont take everything you read or hear as gospel pro sports is as cutthroat as anything in the business world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Komisarek for Bryzgalov isn't a hockey trade? Defensemen for a Goalie, bad contracts cancel out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 You're again showing an inability to understand contracts. Komisarek's expires in 2014, Bryzgalov's in 2020. See the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 You're again showing an inability to understand contracts. Komisarek's expires in 2014, Bryzgalov's in 2020. See the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 The only difference I see is an overpayed plug and a goalie who can actually do something for your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Oh, OK. So neither you nor Smashian Kassian see the value - cap space - in having one contract expiring in 2014, versus the other one expiring 6 years later. Bryz proved what he is last year; an average goaltender who's stats were inflated playing in Phoenix's system (like Smith's are today), and, worse, he's a loudmouth and a headcase. Give me Komisarek with a contract expiring in 2014 over Bryzgalov with a contract expiring in 2020 very easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Oh, OK. So neither you nor Smashian Kassian see the value - cap space - in having one contract expiring in 2014, versus the other one expiring 6 years later. Bryz proved what he is last year; an average goaltender who's stats were inflated playing in Phoenix's system (like Smith's are today), and, worse, he's a loudmouth and a headcase. Give me Komisarek with a contract expiring in 2014 over Bryzgalov with a contract expiring in 2020 very easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 So you're telling me, that you would rather have an absolute pylon of a defenseman than a decent goalie who struggled in his first year in a new system but still put up respectable numbers? King, you never cease to amaze me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 His stats weren't all that impressive in Phoenix either way, he had one impressive season, maybe 2. Smith's stats were not inflated due to Phoenix's system, I'm pretty sure everyone in the Coyotes organization would agree. That was Smith, not there system. now if I had to choose I might take Komisarek too, but that's not what this was about, if you needed goaltending badly and all you had to give up was an extremely overpaid plug, (Which is a positive in itself) I would do it. You wouldn't have to give up anything, it's risky but even if it doesn't turn out the level of preformence they would get is probably better than what they currently have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I'd be willing to bet Philly would be happy to trade Bryzgalov for Komisarek straight up, and then go looking for a goalie. MG, is Lou still on the market??? But Toronto would rather trade Komisarek for nothing (and Philly could use him and it could happen) than take on Brygalov. $50 mill, is expensive but that gives u something is apparently fine as Toronto's interest in Luongo indicates. $50 mill that doesn't is a much bigger problem. Congrats King! You have just proved Lou's value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 "Struggled in his first year" isn't really a viable excuse when you're talking about a 31 year-old NHL veteran. Remember Keith Ballard? He was supposed to have "adjusted" by year two, was he not? Bryzgalov's contract is wretched, a team killer. You rather being married to him, at that price, until 2020, versus Komisarek for 1.5 more years at $4.5M, really shows a lack of comprehension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 How exactly is Bryzgalov a team killer? People really shouldn't put much merrit into what you say anymore as you've proven more than once how dumb you are. And a player can't exactly prove himself when he's benched for the majority of a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 How exactly is Bryzgalov a team killer? People really shouldn't put much merrit into what you say anymore as you've proven more than once how dumb you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Kinda like why the Canucks can't keep Luongo for the next 10 years, like you say that they can, because it's simply a horrible use of scarce funds to have them tied up in a backup goaltender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Stoopid DP. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 So you're telling me, that you would rather have an absolute pylon of a defenseman than a decent goalie who struggled in his first year in a new system but still put up respectable numbers? King, you never cease to amaze me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Do you realize how bad Bryzgalov was last year? More importantly do you realize how bad his contract looks right now? Philly took a huge risk by giving term and money and its backfired in its very first year. Komisarek no matter how bad, still has only a year left after this one. It should be an obvious choice which one you would rather have. Komisarek sitting in the pressbox for 82 games has more value than Bryzgalov does right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorFutureGM Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 No team is ballsy enough to trade for Brylgalov. Payoff could be huge but same with cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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