King of the ES Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Okay, so are you are on side with Gillis being patient and waiting for the best deal, or are you saying that Luongo should be moved out of town for to the first team that dangles a 5th round pick and cap dump contract under Gillis' nose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Gagner/Hemsky, Curtis Hamilton and 2013 1st for Luongo matches his value much better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Ok, Gollumpus Lets try to find his value. Gillis has said he wants a top 6 forward, a prospect and a 1st. IMO that is the absolute high point. He's not going to ask for less than what he really wants and the market isn't hot enough for Luongo to start an all out bidding war. What teams are legitimately in play for Luongo? To me it's Toronto and Florida with maybe Chicago and Edmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Continuing on... Toronto headed by Burke has been a disaster. They have been unable to find players to fill key positions like #1 centre, #1 goaltender and #1 defenceman. The Leafs need a goaltender and Luongo would fit that bill but Burke has also been quite outspoken against long term contracts. i see Burke having interest in Luongo if he feels he's getting him at a bargain price. With that being said, Burke's need to get the Leafs into the playoffs will likely make him the highest bidder. Toronto offers Franson, Bozak, Kadri/Colborne, 2nd, Lomardi. Burke will need to send a bad contract back to receive what he deems a bad contract. You can take out Lombardi but then also take out Kadri/Colborne or the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 1.) Don't kid yourself. Florida does need Luongo. Theodore (36) and Clemmenson (35) are both on their last legs, even though they are still very serviceable for the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Chicago's goaltending was shkay last season after having solid goaltending from Crawford the year before. Crawford still has two more seasons before he becomes a UFA. Chicago is a team with a model that doesn't spend a lot on goaltending and they won a cup with that model. Their defence is relatively deep along with their forwards. With the rivalry both teams will not want to lose this deal. Chicago offers Frolik, Beach, 1st. Might be a conditional 1st on this year or the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 And Luongo, at 33, is what? Just about to enter his prime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Gillis has said he wants a top 6 forward, a prospect and a 1st. IMO that is the absolute high point. He's not going to ask for less than what he really wants and the market isn't hot enough for Luongo to start an all out bidding war. What teams are legitimately in play for Luongo? To me it's Toronto and Florida with maybe Chicago and Edmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 to TB - Luongo, d-man prospect, maybe a 2nd to Vancouver - Purcell, Aulie, 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 So Tampa's going to trade a 27 year-old that just had a career season of 65 points, and who they just signed to a 3-year extension in July, as well as an intriguing defenceman with upside that they traded a 1st round pick for (Ashton), and an additional first to the Canucks for a guy that the Canucks have to get rid of? You. Are. Dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 You are dreaming if you think we are gonna get crap for Luongo. Lu's an elite goalie, and one of the best in the game. You're gonna have to give up value if you wanna get a goalie of Luongo's calibre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 So Tampa's going to trade a 27 year-old that just had a career season of 65 points, and who they just signed to a 3-year extension in July, as well as an intriguing defenceman with upside that they traded a 1st round pick for (Ashton), and an additional first to the Canucks for a guy that the Canucks have to get rid of? You. Are. Dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Not when the only alternative for Vancouver is not trading him, which is not an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorFutureGM Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 Actually, that is an option, you're just too blind to see it. Again, what's wrong with keeping one of the best tandem's in the league together if we can't find a good deal for Lu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 When fanboys say it's an option holding on to Luongo they take no account of how Luongo and Schneider would feel about the situation and what it would manifest into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Actually, that is an option, you're just too blind to see it. Again, what's wrong with keeping one of the best tandem's in the league together if we can't find a good deal for Lu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 When people are so caught up with one position being the "right one", they fail to see any possibilities other than the one to which they have given their allegiance. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 +1 Thank godness someone has some sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Right, and the guy with "sense" is the one expecting a 65 point-getter, a high-end D prospect, and a 1st round pick for Roberto Luongo. Like I said, happy dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Right, and the guy with "sense" is the one expecting a 65 point-getter, a high-end D prospect, and a 1st round pick for Roberto Luongo. Like I said, happy dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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