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#181 elvis15

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 10:59 PM

Zack Kassian is a monster. "Pugnacity, testosterone, truculence and belligerence"
He green lights a hawk prospect behind the net and then 1 punches the guy coming in for revenge.
This guy's attitude is like a mixture of Scott Stevens/Kevin Bieksa/Todd Bertuzzi.

As for Connauton, it looks like he is letting Tanev know he's coming for his spot.

Tanev plays the right side, Connauton plays the left. They aren't in direct competition.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 11:14 PM

Tanev plays the right side, Connauton plays the left. They aren't in direct competition.


When you have two young defensemen fighting for a single available starting spot, they are in direct competition.
They aren't locked into being a left side dman or right side dman forever.

Connauton has the offense over Tanev and now he's showing he can be a 2-way defender.


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Posted 14 October 2012 - 11:22 PM

Andersson and Tanev is a better comparison as they're more likely to be in competition once Andersson is ready for NHL duty. I don't know that I've seen either Connauton (left handed) or Tanev (right handed) play their opposite side, and I'm not sure why they would unless there wasn't anyone else available.

For instance, if there were an injury to a top 4 right side D-man on the Canucks Tanev would get the call over Connauton. They might use Connauton on the PP if they needed someone there (as opposite side helps for one timers) but otherwise it wouldn't make sense to put a young defender in an unnatural position against tougher competition.

Perhaps you can explain your reasoning, but I don't see it.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 02:30 AM

Andersson and Tanev is a better comparison as they're more likely to be in competition once Andersson is ready for NHL duty. I don't know that I've seen either Connauton (left handed) or Tanev (right handed) play their opposite side, and I'm not sure why they would unless there wasn't anyone else available.

For instance, if there were an injury to a top 4 right side D-man on the Canucks Tanev would get the call over Connauton. They might use Connauton on the PP if they needed someone there (as opposite side helps for one timers) but otherwise it wouldn't make sense to put a young defender in an unnatural position against tougher competition.

Perhaps you can explain your reasoning, but I don't see it.


Couldn't agree more.
When studs like Ballard struggle on their "wrong" side why would you ruin a prospect by playing him there?
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 02:39 AM

If kassian can do something like that to someone in the playoffs ( pat kane, Marchand, Clowe, bolland, take your pick) The hodgson trade was worth it , in my eyes lol


I don't think Kassian is ready for Clowe yet.............maybe in a couple of years.

Hodgson I'm afraid showed much of the downside many people spoke of on here against the Marlies the other night..........but it is early days and and he is still finding his feet. It was good to see him push one Marlie on his backside though so maybe he is developing a bit more pushback.
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 05:59 AM

The Rockford IceHogs are located about an hour drive NW of Chicago. The Wolves play in Rosemont, which is a suburb adjacent to Chicago and O'Hare Airport.



I recorded that from cable. The Wolves broadcast most of their games in the Chicago area, and it is a full multi-camera production, not the single camera AHL Live feed. They have had a contract with Comcast cable for years, but have added over-the-air broadcast partners the last couple of years in the mix.

Maybe you would stream such things? PM me if you will or do. Don't reply in here, cause it's a no no.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 06:57 AM

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 08:11 AM

Perhaps it was the emergence of Foligno that made Kassian expendable by the Sabres. He is still on fire. In that case trading away a winger for a center is, as usual, pretty good.

I don't think Kassian is ready for Clowe yet.............maybe in a couple of years.

Hodgson I'm afraid showed much of the downside many people spoke of on here against the Marlies the other night..........but it is early days and and he is still finding his feet. It was good to see him push one Marlie on his backside though so maybe he is developing a bit more pushback.


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Posted 15 October 2012 - 08:41 AM

Was Sauve injured? Not sure what to make of the news that he's being scratched...

I don't think I've heard anything specifically, but he hasn't progress well enough as a 2-way defenceman to warrant a top 4 spot if others are playing better in that role. I could see it as the Wolves seeing what they have in other players early in the season.


I tweeted the Wolves play by play guy, Jason Shaver (@theshaves, and and it looks like it's just about how may guys they have currently:

no injury that I'm aware of. There are currently 9 defensemen on the roster so may be a numbers game right now.


Maybe you would stream such things? PM me if you will or do. Don't reply in here, cause it's a no no.

I think PM's are a no no too, but I would love a personal stream of the local feed.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 09:49 AM

I'd like a pony :)

I won't stream games, tried it once, people that visit my site prefer the higher quality archives of games I keep.
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 09:50 AM

I'd like a pony :)

I won't stream games, tried it once, people that visit my site prefer the higher quality archives of games I keep.

yeah, i LOVE the full game archives.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 10:30 AM

That would certainly be acceptable as well, at least better than not watching at all or fighting with a low quality live stream.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 10:51 AM

Well, check my profile and you'll find a link ;)
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 11:00 AM

Been there, done that! ::D

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 11:08 AM

Canucks Army with another Wolves game recap, here's the best Canucks prospects bits:

KASSIAN SHOWS HIS STRENGTH, WOLVES TAKE ANOTHER FROM HAWKS FARMHANDS

- Might as well start with Kassian, who had three shifts of especial note. On one second-period shift, he took advantage of a Rockford defenceman's broken stick (for which Kassian himself was pretty much responsible). While waiting for a forward to hand his stick off to the stickless defenceman, Kassian collected the puck and proceeded to challenge the now-stickless forward, dominated the engagement and got himself a quality shot off from the slot. It all took about 15 seconds and in the words of Thomas Drance was 'hilariously deliberate.'

- Big Zack's next feat was to throw a big hit behind the net on Ryan Stanton. It was a heavy hit that had some shades of Raffi Torres, though in Kassian's defence, Stanton did have the puck and he probably expected some kind of collision. You can bet safely that he was really hoping it wouldn't be Kassian. The big forward saw the contact coming, set himself and (again) owned the confrontation, sending Stanton hard to the ice and gaining the attention of Stanton's teammates. Kassian and Jimmy Hayes mixed it up some, each earning roughing minors.

- Accomplishment three was a game saver. Late in the third, with BIlly Sweatt shuffled on to the second line because of his defensive prowess (Anton Rodin had spent most of the night on Jordan Schroeder's left), Kassian led a forechecking effort along the boards that seemed to last minutes. With the occasional help of Sweatt, Kassian worked the puck around the corner, down towards the endboards and while Schroeder skated through, distracting defenders as he went, Kassian fired a pass to Sweatt in the slot. Sweatt fought off his man and laid a strong one-timer over Rockford goalie Carter Hutton's left shoulder. Game, set, match. How Kassian was not a star is a mystery, but there were plenty of strong Wolves on the night so just chalk it up to that.

- Kevin Connauton looks ready to take the next step. He's learned how to use his big frame effectively and was a tower of strength at both ends of the ice all night. His strong puck distribution was noticeable throughout the game. With his offensive talents, will he actually find himself ahead of Chris Tanev in the pecking order?

- Anton Rodin is stronger. That much is obvious. At the end of last season it was very common for commentators to not his exceptional skill level and how it was being held back by his lack of strength. It was also pointed out that he was barely 20 when the season had started. He's clearly a year older and a year stronger. His play last night was obviously so impressive to head coach Scott Arniel that he was promoted to a regular five-on-five shift with centre Jordan Schroeder and Zack Kassian. The trio had multiple dominant shifts, partly due to Kassian's above-noted physical dominance, but also because Rodin was strong with the puck along the boards, getting himself often more than once, as well as Schroeder's creativity, agility and doggedness with the puck.

- Some notable scoring chance performances: Longpre 3, Kassian 2, Schroeder 3, Rodin 3, Sterling 2.

- Eddie Lack didn't have much to do in the first two periods, but what a performance in the third. Two of the goals - both on the powerplay - the Stork had next to no chance on, both slick cross-ice passes by Rockford's Martin St. Pierre to open men, who wired one-timers past Lack. All 13 of Rockford's third period scoring chances came in a ten-minute stretch, and included all three goals. But for Lack's efforts, it could have been far worse.

- Nathan Longpre is not Canucks property, but he must be at least on the edge of their radar. He was invited to camp last fall and impressed enough that the Wolves brought him into the fold. He started the year playing top-line minutes but as the Canucks shored up their lineup and the Wolves' his role diminished. He moved to Syracuse as part of the Samme Pahlsson deal, but the Wolves brought him back this summer. He looks set to play mostly third-line minutes, but they will be useful minutes. He scored a pair of goals against Rockford, including a shorthanded goal that started with blueline turnover he forced with a nifty pokecheck.


Also of note: I didn't pick this up from the game when trying to listen to/watch it, but apparently Mullen went off early in the second after going into the boards hard. We'll see if anything results in that.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 11:32 AM

Just to clarify something - the Wolves GM was on News 1130 this morning.

Said Rodin has been one of the best players - but he was taken off the 2nd line (in the 3rd period of yesterdays game) in favour of Sweatt, as Sweatt has more 'defensive' prowess, while Rodin is still developing that side of the game.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 11:51 AM

Just to clarify something - the Wolves GM was on News 1130 this morning.

Said Rodin has been one of the best players - but he was taken off the 2nd line (in the 3rd period of yesterdays game) in favour of Sweatt, as Sweatt has more 'defensive' prowess, while Rodin is still developing that side of the game.

Agreed on that, it's a bit of an aside in the third point on Kassian in the Canucks Army summary so it's not bad to single it out. That line seemed good on the 2nd unit PP in the first game and as well in this game, which warranted the 5 on 5 time on top of it. I think they'll stick with that going forward, even though Sweatt and Schroeder seemed to play well together last year.

Sweatt didn't seem to be able to finish when he played on that line in the 1st game, but certainly did so when he was put back on it in the third. His speed and defensive ability is an asset over Rodin in a game that's closer than it should be, however.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:27 PM

Agreed on that, it's a bit of an aside in the third point on Kassian in the Canucks Army summary so it's not bad to single it out. That line seemed good on the 2nd unit PP in the first game and as well in this game, which warranted the 5 on 5 time on top of it. I think they'll stick with that going forward, even though Sweatt and Schroeder seemed to play well together last year.

Sweatt didn't seem to be able to finish when he played on that line in the 1st game, but certainly did so when he was put back on it in the third. His speed and defensive ability is an asset over Rodin in a game that's closer than it should be, however.


I am a huge fan of Rodin.

He needs the chance to shine.
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 01:32 PM

Wonder why the AHL doesn't take the cable feed and just put it on for those who want the Wolves package on AHL LIve. Too much work I suppose?
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 01:39 PM

Also, kinda sad that, at this point, News 1130 might have had more coverage of the Wolves season than our local so-called "sports" stations 1040 and 1410... unless I'm mistaken and have been missing out?

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 03:35 PM

Also, kinda sad that, at this point, News 1130 might have had more coverage of the Wolves season than our local so-called "sports" stations 1040 and 1410... unless I'm mistaken and have been missing out?


I have to agree with your point there.

From listening to the Team 1040, they are clueless about ALL Canucks prospects.
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 08:43 AM

Kassian does dirty work in Wolves' 5-3 win
Winger gets physical as they make it two in a row over IceHogs


By Paul LaTour, Special to the Tribune
7:35 p.m. CDT, October 14, 2012

Zack Kassian isn't going to score the pretty goals for the Wolves. But he will do the hard work necessary for someone else to score the pretty ones.
Using his large frame and good hands, Kassian battled along the boards in the Rockford zone before finding Bill Sweatt for a one-timer that capped a 5-3 victory for the Wolves on Sunday in front of 5,113 fans at Allstate Arena.
"Those are the things he needs to do," Wolves coach Scott Arniel said of Kassian. "For him it's not the tap-dancing, play-on-the-outside kind of game."
Kassian also sent a buzz through the crowd when he laid out Ryan Stanton behind the IceHogs' goal with a crushing hit late in the second period.
"I need to be a physical force out there," Kassian said. "When guys have their heads down, I need to finish people. That was the perfect location to do so."
Nathan Longpre scored twice, including the decisive fourth goal after the Wolves had built a 3-0 lead early in the third period. Andrew Ebbett and Brett Sterling also scored for the Wolves.
Jeremy Morin scored twice in the third period to spark the IceHogs' rally, which ultimately fell short. They closed within one goal twice but failed to knot it.
"We shouldn't have let them get back in it and give them motivation," Longpre said. "We were on our heels. It's not like we were lucky to win that game, but we had full control coming into the third period."
The teams each scored three goals in the final period after combining for only two in the first 105 minutes over two games. Wolves goalie Eddie Lack finished with 25 saves after seeing his shutout streak snapped at 110 minutes, 36 seconds.

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Nathan Longpre keys Wolves’ win over IceHogs with two goals
BY SETH GRUEN For Sun-Times Media
October 14, 2012 8:36PM

The third period of the game Sunday against the Rockford IceHogs might have helped some Wolves get their individual seasons rolling.
But the team might be wise to avoid the offensive slugfest of the final period.
After shutting out the IceHogs through the first two periods of their 5-3 victory, the Wolves traded goals in a six-goal third period.
The first two periods, which saw the Wolves jump out to a 2-0 lead, are more representative of the type of hockey they prefer to play.
“We want to be aggressive all year, but you never just want to play run-and-gun style,” left wing Brett Sterling said. “When they get going defensively, we’ve got to bear down. We’ve got to take it to them. But we can’t just abandon the defensive game.”
Andrew Ebbett broke a scoreless tie when he found the net on a wrister from the top of the right circle at 7:46 of the first period. Nathan Longpre added a short-handed goal at 7:45 of the second period.
Throughout training camp, coach Scott Arniel has encouraged Longpre to be aggressive on the penalty kill.
“[Longpre is a] real valuable guy you can use in a lot of situations and showed his scoring touch,” Arniel said. “Great short-handed goal.
“He works hard. He’s a great skater, good speed.”
Sterling, who assisted on Ebbett’s goal, scored at 2:44 of the third, giving the Wolves a 3-0 lead before the tenor of the game changed.
Jeremy Morin and Marcus Kruger brought the IceHogs to within one, scoring goals less than two minutes apart.
Longpre tallied again at 9:46 of the third before Morin responded with his second goal at 10:15. Bill Sweatt’s goal at 17:16 gave the Wolves (2-0-0-0) a two-goal margin and put the game out of reach.
The Wolves would have run away with the game if it weren’t for a second consecutive 0-for-6 showing on the power play.
“We shouldn’t have let them get back in it,” Longpre said. “We gave them motivation to get back in the game. We got a couple penalties and let them back into it. But we kept our foot on the gas.”
The Wolves’ next game is Wednesday at Allstate Arena against the Peoria Rivermen.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:25 PM

It was apparent after the trade last year Kassian had plenty of ability to control the puck along the boards, but he didn't have much success making good passes from those situations while under pressure from NHL level players. That's one thing I hope he improves upon, as well as being able to be a physical presence when possible, as it'll make him much more dangerous and likely improve his confidence.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:30 PM

well it was 2 hogs d-men that played on the hawks last year that he burned with that amazing 1 handed pass for the goal, so it's apparent he's improved a great deal. i'm surprised how hard that one handed pass actually was.

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