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#1 SkeeterHansen

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 01:53 PM

I scoured the boards and couldn't find anything, so here goes:

I've been thinking about it a lot the past few days, and can't find much fault in the idea.

What do you guys think about re-acquiring Todd Bertuzzi, to play in a "mentor" role for Zack Kassian? Kass has been touted by some as "the Next Bertuzzi". The projected "Kassian-Gaunce-Jensen" line has been predicted as the "Next WCE", by some...granted, these are all very shaky predictions.

But even still, who better to mentor the "Next Bertuzzi" for the "Next WCE" than the original Todd Bertuzzi of the original WCE. With Bertuzzi we could add two things: A big body, who can score and put a bit of a scare into the other team and a guy who can mold Kassian into a more dominant, all around player. This could also solve the problem as to who will be our 2nd-3rd line RW with Raymond, Hansen etc, as Bertuzzi would almost definitely be a limited 4th line player here. To me, this move would have no downside, other than the fact that Bert could be retiring anytime soon. Thoughts?

If we were willing to take Big Bert, who would you move for him?

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 01:54 PM

If Detroit is willing and Bert wants to come back, I'd try Ballard for him straight up.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 01:55 PM

I scoured the boards and couldn't find anything, so here goes:

I've been thinking about it a lot the past few days, and can't find much fault in the idea.

What do you guys think about re-acquiring Todd Bertuzzi, to play in a "mentor" role for Zack Kassian? Kass has been touted by some as "the Next Bertuzzi". The projected "Kassian-Gaunce-Jensen" line has been predicted as the "Next WCE", by some...granted, these are all very shaky predictions.

But even still, who better to mentor the "Next Bertuzzi" for the "Next WCE" than the original Todd Bertuzzi of the original WCE. With Bertuzzi we could add two things: A big body, who can score and put a bit of a scare into the other team and a guy who can mold Kassian into a more dominant, all around player. This could also solve the problem as to who will be our 2nd-3rd line RW with Raymond, Hansen etc, as Bertuzzi would almost definitely be a limited 4th line player here. To me, this move would have no downside, other than the fact that Bert could be retiring anytime soon. Thoughts?

If we were willing to take Big Bert, who would you move for him?

Have at it, CDC.


You can't find fault with the idea of bringing Bertuzzi back to Vancouver? :picard:

Bringing in somebody to mentor Kassian is a fine idea, just not Bertuzzi.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 01:56 PM

No.


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Posted 19 October 2012 - 01:58 PM

You can't find fault with the idea of bringing Bertuzzi back to Vancouver? :picard:

Bringing in somebody to mentor Kassian is a fine idea, just not Bertuzzi.


Reason?

EDIT: Nevermind, everyone is going to use the "incident" as a reference.

Forgive and forget, I say :)

Edited by MaximYapierre, 19 October 2012 - 01:58 PM.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 02:01 PM

I'd like to see Big Bert back with the Canucks, but I think the pressure he'd get from the Vancouver media would be too much to handle.

Everyday he'd have to answer questions like "Do you regret the Steve Moore incident" and crap like that.

I don't see it happening.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 02:05 PM

I'd love to have him back. I've forgiven him for the incident but the majority of Canucks fans haven't. I don't think Bert will ever play for the Canucks again due to the lawsuits.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 02:06 PM

If Detroit is willing and Bert wants to come back, I'd try Ballard for him straight up.


Screw that!

Detroit would want to dump back a lot more cap than just Bertuzzi, so I would suggest they also send Franzen along., or maybe that Datsyuk fella'. I hear he's pretty good. :P

Otherwise, aside from the cap benefit that the Canucks get from this deal, what do you suggest they do with the empty spot on their top-6?

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 02:17 PM

Reason?

EDIT: Nevermind, everyone is going to use the "incident" as a reference.

Forgive and forget, I say :)


The "incident" is the only reason this wouldn't work, otherwise it's a good idea. But the media attention would be a major distraction and negate some (if not all) of the benefit of bringing Bert back in the first place. I'm sure there are other opportunities out there of a Kassian mentor.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 02:34 PM

With Vancouver media I don't think it's a great idea.

Just imagine, 1st game vs Colorado:

Media- "Todd, how does it feel to be back in VAN against COL after the Moore incident"



Bert- "I told you, I won't talk about that"



Media- "But how does it feel?"


Bert- "I won't answer, next question"


Media- "Do you plan on attacking anyone?"


Bert- " :picard: "

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 03:51 PM

It is a good idea, if Bertuzzi and Detroit agree.

Some people really need to get over it. He was a great player for us, and all of his talents shouldn't be overlooked because of that incident.

We just took Cloutier back, so we can do the same for Big Bert.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 04:02 PM

Never, ever happen. Even if the fans and management want him, Bertuzzi would never come back. I'm sure he has fond memories, but "the incident" is a black mark on his career. I absolutely love Bertuzzi, but for his own well being, he would be a fool to come back.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 04:11 PM

It is a good idea, if Bertuzzi and Detroit agree.

Some people really need to get over it. He was a great player for us, and all of his talents shouldn't be overlooked because of that incident.

We just took Cloutier back, so we can do the same for Big Bert.


Cloutier never ended anyones career aside from his own. I love Bertuzzi as much as the next guy, but having him back wouldnt work.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 04:16 PM

I'f love to have Big Bert back. He was an absolutely phenomenal player, and I bet Zack would do anything Bertuzzi tells him to do!

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 04:17 PM

Get 'er done, MG!

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 05:01 PM

People think Kassian is Bertuzzi Jr. Whether or not I think the comparison is fair... is beyond the point. I doubt that kind of mentorship role will actually work.

He DOES need players that will make him a better player. The Sedins are nothing like Naslund or Sundin. Naslund adjusted his game to help the twins and Sundin was a living legend by 2009. Bertuzzi, on the other hand, will steal Kassian's job. You don't want that. If anything, get a retired power forward to help coach him.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 05:54 PM

Why not?

Both play a similar role, and it be a dream come true for Kassian playing alongside Big Bert since his favourite player growing up was Todd Bertuzzi.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 05:57 PM

I don't think it's a big deal. Bertuzzi already played an entire year with the Canucks after the incident, plus who knows how many other times he has played in Vancouver and Colorado as member of the Ducks and Red Wings.

Maybe initially there may be a few odd questions asked, but remember, it's been like 8 years ago since the incident and Todd isn't really the same fiery guy he once was.

I think he would be a good 2nd/3rd line player with the Canucks, assuming he is still willing to play physical, but I'm not sure how well his invisible powers will sit with AV. If he wants to be with Vancouver for his chance to win the cup before he retire and will put 100%, by all means bring him back.

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 11:43 AM

Reason?

EDIT: Nevermind, everyone is going to use the "incident" as a reference.

Forgive and forget, I say :)



How about someone ask Aquilinni? Bertuzzi is still in court hoping trying to nail the Canucks as co-defendants for the liability. Give your head a shake!

The idea sounds like pure genius... :sick: And the concept has been suggested to death before.


The "incident" is the only reason this wouldn't work, otherwise it's a good idea. But the media attention would be a major distraction and negate some (if not all) of the benefit of bringing Bert back in the first place. I'm sure there are other opportunities out there of a Kassian mentor.


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Posted 21 October 2012 - 01:31 PM

Cloutier never ended anyones career aside from his own. I love Bertuzzi as much as the next guy, but having him back wouldnt work.


If people don't buy into everything the media says, then it could potentially work.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:52 AM

I would love to bring him back. A decent pick up for a 3rd liner maybe. Give us more depth but as others have said the media will kill him. I was happy he was traded, not because he wasn't good anymore, not becasue we got Luongo (obviously was happy about that though), just because he was able to get away from Vancouver and it's media who always look at Bertuzzi and think back to the incident. It was a bad play thats for sure, I just wish it could be let go.

I do hope Bert wins the cup one day, he has found a good fit in Detroit :)

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 09:11 AM

I would love that. Only issue of course would be the media obviously.
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 09:29 AM

Eff that aha thats a joke right there especially ballard for bert

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:58 AM

Eff that aha thats a joke right there especially ballard for bert


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