The Bookie Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Except one was a one on one fight involving two young guys who probably had too much to drink. The other was a two on one that allegedly involved some sort of weapon, and ended with someone being taken away in an ambulance. So yea, a little different there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Lol at the people trying to compare the two situations. Kassian was 19 years old and if I had to take a guess was probably being harassed by a drunk fool all night just because he recognized who Kassian was. This guy was letting Kassian hear it all night thinking he was funny until Kassian dropped him and then walked away. That is my understanding from what I read, it wasn't a full on fight. On the other hand, Eager ganged up on one guy with his brother and in full out rage beat this guy hard enough that he ended up in an ambulance. The story says the guy was a doorman, so putting two and two together you could probably assume that Eager was about to be kicked out of the bar, or asked to leave when he pulled the "do you know who I am" card and then couldn't control his temper. It seems like Eager has rage issues... this guy is a clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Iwonder if his brother was the monkey or the organ grinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 It is NOT presumptuous to tag Brave Ben as a "clueless dooshbag" .. the jury has been out a long time on that one .. from this day forward let us never, ever use the words "professional" and Ben Eager in the same sentence .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Don't know the guy from a hole in the ground, so not going to judge him at all. He plays his role on the ice whether people like it or not; sometimes effectively, lots of times ineffectively. Saying that, he'll receive a stiff fine and community service. At which point, I hope for his own personal well being that he turns his life around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancity787 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 This guy is a Grade A Moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferlands_Head Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 LOL i'm surprised this doesn't happen more often..some doormen/bouncers at bars/nightclubs are WAYYYY too cocky and need to be put in their place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown33429 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Oh, I'm sure that would be a successful venture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown33429 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Try not making a boat load of assumptions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I guess he and his brother were not very Eager to leave the establishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Have you read the story, or do yo you just like use an apparent "sense of objectivity" to feel superior to other people on the internet? "The doorman allegedly had to hold up a patio chair to shield himself from the attack." "Eager and his brother each face charges of assault, assault with bodily harm and assault with weapon." I know the convention is to blame CDC for all the world's woes, but this seems very different from the Kassian situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Two guys attacking a doorman usually means two things; 1) You were being a dork so they would not let u in. 2) You were being a dork so the doorman kicked u out. Time to exact some revenge... But the bar, which called itself a place for young professionals, seems also to be saying its's not the sort of place for brawling. How many biker bars close service after a fight? Eager apparently begged to differ and raised the ante. They also seem happy to hand over security tape. I know one thing. You do not usually eject 220 lb guys built like Eager by yourself. The two brothers attacking a doorman does not sound like something he would have been expecting. I bet the footage will show he was reckless; just like running Sedin from behind into the boards like an idiot in San Jose in the 2010/11 play off's. But the NHL would be hypocritical if they made a big deal of it. They were just promoting brawling and sticking together as a way of life as recently as yesterday; http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=643744&navid=DL|NHL|home CDC's reactions: Kassian barfight: OMG badass Eager barfight: Classless and disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown33429 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 What story? The Kassian bar fight where three articles all mention the same thing, none of which that guy describe? And directly out of the Sun: "Police still weren’t sure what sparked the fight." So in regards to my previous post, what was wrong with what I said? Either there's some other OFFICIAL report out there saying differently, it sounds like people are just speaking out of their ass and drawing assumptions to justify what a Canuck player did. Which doesn't surprise me. And, you know, allegedly means not yet proven. If justice was laid down based on word of mouth instead of investigation, there would be a lot of people getting screwed over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMelvin Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 CDC's reactions: Kassian barfight: OMG badass Eager barfight: Classless and disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 ...Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I know exactly what allegedly means. It means he hasn't be convicted of it yet. I also know what this means,: "She said the fight was caught on security video, which will be handed over to police on Sunday" So the assault was caught on tape. Also, I know what this means: "The doorman suffered cuts to the face and was taken to hospital by ambulance" There's a lot wrong with what you said, but the most annoying part is to assume bias on an ENTIRE forum (to which you belong). Also I hate when people keep saying the same thing over and over again, when it is just a waste of breath and doesn't add to the discussion...after every few comment, we get a statement mentioning the bias of the forum from a user, conveying their sense of superiority over the whole forum...it just irritates me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I'm a member of CDC, and I would easily assume bias. Sorry, but the bulk of the userbase here is all too emblematic of the type who rioted in 2011. There are some very intelligent. reasonable, and well-spoken folks here, and that's why I keep coming back. But they are in the minority. Pile-ons happen everywhere on the Internet - they just seem to happen a little quicker around here. That being said, I am absolutely loathe to be defending a hockey player like Ben Eager. But the original article and video reeked of spin, so I'd rather reserve my judgement of the situation until more facts emerge. For perspective - imagine yourself as a Minnesota Wild fan, making assertions about the character of Rick Rypien after the fan incident. Now imagine how you feel the following summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dittohead Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 he's just trying to stay in shape practicing while locked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsey Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 CDC's reactions: Kassian barfight: OMG badass Eager barfight: Classless and disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 End the lockout please so we can discuss hockey and what happens on the ice.... Pffft. Fat chance that's happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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