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#91 avelanch

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 04:34 PM

Were there any numbers on how much the cars themselves are going to cost? It seems to me that each company just keeps one example of the technology, but no production cars have ever come out for sale, lease only.

Electric cars on the other hand are already available from many companies

that's because it's still in the beta testing for most manufacturers, and most of the cars are hand built/assembled, just like electric cars were back in the mid-nineties. Toyota says they expect to launch a production model in 2015 and you are going to see the acceptance rate of hydrogen fuel cells to be similar to those of the hybrid acceptance rate back in the late nineties.

they currently lease for 600/month, $4 less than a 2012 Audi A4 2.0T quattro Prestige, which is around 45 grand to buy. once they go into mass production I'd expect them to be at the max, 32,000 (the price of the most expensive prius) but most likely around 25,000

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 04:46 PM

that's because it's still in the beta testing for most manufacturers, and most of the cars are hand built/assembled, just like electric cars were back in the mid-nineties. Toyota says they expect to launch a production model in 2015 and you are going to see the acceptance rate of hydrogen fuel cells to be similar to those of the hybrid acceptance rate back in the late nineties.

they currently lease for 600/month, $4 less than a 2012 Audi A4 2.0T quattro Prestige, which is around 45 grand to buy. once they go into mass production I'd expect them to be at the max, 32,000 (the price of the most expensive prius) but most likely around 25,000


that seems to be based on companies actually trying to make money off the leases. I'd bet that they just found the price where they lose the least amount of money each time.

Also, if they are pricing civics with audis, they are going to lose the fight
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:02 PM

http://automobiles.h...om/fcx-clarity/
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http://automobiles.h...gy-station.aspx

pretty much makes both gas and electric cars worthless. We, as a planet, need these to take over. Hydrogen refueling stations need to expand beyond southern california (they need to be added to every gas station) for long distance travel, and the home refueling station can help subsidize costs for daily driving.

As for the problem with electric cars, they take forever and a day to recharge, and are limited in distance. Hydrogen is the real future, screw electric.


Right on brother. Always been a supporter of Hydrogen over electricity.
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 02:27 PM

I'm not a fan of electric cars at all
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 03:28 PM

I'm not a fan of electric cars at all


Well they're a cool concept. In fact, they're torque monsters but I'd never own one. At least not in 20 years.
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 03:39 PM

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Does anyone else think this is stupid? A hatchback Ferrari? I think it's kind of ridiculous

Yeah, I'm with you
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 04:46 PM

Yeah, I'm with you


Just as bad as a Porsche SUV haha
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 07:16 PM

Just as bad as a Porsche SUV haha


:sadno:

Don't tell me you aren't a fan of the Boxster too. lol
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 07:23 PM

:sadno:

Don't tell me you aren't a fan of the Boxster too. lol


I was just saying, to the purist fans of both companies, they are abominations.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 12:15 AM

I was just saying, to the purist fans of both companies, they are abominations.


Doesn't matter.

Its the fastest SUV on the market. They have bragging rights.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 12:55 AM

Doesn't matter.

Its the fastest SUV on the market. They have bragging rights.


haha because that's what matters for an SUV, top speed on roads
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 07:14 AM

Well they're a cool concept. In fact, they're torque monsters but I'd never own one. At least not in 20 years.


Once the battery can last for 800km's and charge in 5 mins, then I'll consider one

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 07:29 AM

One the battery can last for 800km's and charge in 5 mins, then I'll consider one

exactly. Enter: the Hydrogen car. problem solved.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 08:51 AM

haha because that's what matters for an SUV, top speed on roads


I'm just saying.

But don't shoot me I'm not a fan of the Cayenne.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:37 PM

Once the battery can last for 800km's and charge in 5 mins, then I'll consider one


How often do you actually do that in your current car?
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 07:21 AM

How often do you actually do that in your current car?


Exactly
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Posted 02 November 2012 - 08:04 AM

Has anyone else been to the Vancouver International Auto Show?
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Posted 02 November 2012 - 08:46 AM

Never had an interest ^

How often do you actually do that in your current car?


Many new cars do that... I don't know what he drives but many do that with ease.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 01:02 PM

Never had an interest ^



Many new cars do that... I don't know what he drives but many do that with ease.


Its not that they have the ability, its how often do you actually do that?
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Posted 02 November 2012 - 01:16 PM

Its not that they have the ability, its how often do you actually do that?

every road trip.
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Posted 02 November 2012 - 02:17 PM

My dad has a TDI Golf (Diesel) and it can get about 800km on a tank
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Posted 02 November 2012 - 03:03 PM

Are you guys talking about the Cayenne or the torque and battery charge in an electric car...?
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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:23 PM

Are you guys talking about the Cayenne or the torque and battery charge in an electric car...?


Electric
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Posted 03 November 2012 - 10:17 AM

I think a Tesla Roadster would be really fun to drive. They are even fun to drive in Forza lol Crazy fast acceleration and great around corners

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 05:28 PM

I would also like to add another which truly needs to be mentioned here.

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Notice where the body meets, its all riveted.
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Posted 03 November 2012 - 11:53 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=369h-SEBXd8


That thing is crazy! I wonder if you made it 4WD would it be even faster? Also that guy is really weird

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 08:41 AM

That thing is crazy! I wonder if you made it 4WD would it be even faster? Also that guy is really weird

yea, he's definitely weird. and if you made it 4wd it would only be faster if you added a second electric motor to drive the front wheels, otherwise the single motor has to drive another axle, making it less powerful.

you would have to think that it would be so much faster if he used a modern car, with a streamlined body, and lighter everything.
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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:03 AM

Funnest car I've probably driven was a Lotus Exige. It's impractical and uncomfortable but it's loads of fun to drive.
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Posted 04 November 2012 - 11:24 AM

Funnest car I've probably driven was a Lotus Exige. It's impractical and uncomfortable but it's loads of fun to drive.


I'm jealous. I've always wanted to drive a Lotus. Hopefully I'll have an Elise one day lol

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