UFCanuck Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Winter Classic Cancelled. The NHL Rulebook @nhlrulebook HBO 24/7 has also been canceled, after NHL owners insisted on renegotiating it down to 22/9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Roberto Luongo: "The only logical explanation I have for Gary canceling the Winter Classic is that he's banking on the Mayan calendar to pull through?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Bettman and the owners showing once again that they don't give a sh*t about the NHL or its fans. The Leafs would probably pay the 250k deposit for the winter classic themselves if they could. But then that would hurt the owners bargaining position. So obviously them winning this battle is more important to them than what's good for the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Year is toast. Players would rather sit out for a better CBA than play 50 or so games at this point. Nhl is toast cause they'll need a way to bring fans back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridianCanuck Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 yeah now i am positive there wont be an NHL season Winter Classic Cancelled. The NHL Rulebook @nhlrulebook HBO 24/7 has also been canceled, after NHL owners insisted on renegotiating it down to 22/9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I don't know why people are still directly blaming Bettman. Though, he is partially to blame, he clearly isn't the only one. http://www.sportsbus...es/Bettman.aspx Bettman serves at the owners’ request Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMelvin Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Bettman and the owners showing once again that they don't give a sh*t about the NHL or its fans. The Leafs would probably pay the 250k deposit for the winter classic themselves if they could. But then that would hurt the owners bargaining position. So obviously them winning this battle is more important to them than what's good for the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Horrbile decision to cancel their only effective marketing tool. I mean when everyone is hungover on Jan 1st, the only thing worth watching is the WC which is broadcast nationwide. Shameful Bettman, just shooting yourselves in the foot. Beyond the maybe 50 players between the Redwings and Leafs, I don't think the players give two *stuff* if the WC is cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I know Bettman just represents the owners, but I am really starting to wonder if its more than that. Its almost like he's brainwashed the owners into his devious plan. Yes, I do believe this is all pre-planned. At this point that plan involves cancelling the season, but not before toying with the NHLPA some more This person really cracks me up: Count Bettman @CountBettman Winter Classic cancelled!!! Hey Columbus.... you're next! AH AH AH AH AH Count Bettman @CountBettman Excellent news!!! I just cancelled the NYC Marathon!! I'm on fire today!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Horrbile decision to cancel their only effective marketing tool. I mean when everyone is hungover on Jan 1st, the only thing worth watching is the WC which is broadcast nationwide. Shameful Bettman, just shooting yourselves in the foot. Beyond the maybe 50 players between the Redwings and Leafs, I don't think the players give two *stuff* if the WC is cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I know Bettman just represents the owners, but I am really starting to wonder if its more than that. Its almost like he's brainwashed the owners into his devious plan. Yes, I do believe this is all pre-planned. At this point that plan involves cancelling the season, but not before toying with the NHLPA some more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 So you don't think the player's are getting nervous about all these cancellations? Jarome Iginla is set to have lost 22M+ in his contract. It's a reality check. Owner's call the shots and it's always been that way. It will always be that way. Players are losing their paychecks, shortening their careers. For what? Players who have spoken to the media have no idea what's going on and are just listening to Fehr's nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Lmao, where are you getting this Iginla losing 22m nonsense? WC is pure profit and marketing for the owners, as I stated it's the one time a year you might actually get some southern markets to watch a hockey game. Look at Luongo's twitter, check out the article on the Senators thoughts about the cancellation, bottom line is players could give a sh-- if the WC was cancelled. Judging by the players multitude of different responses from the NHLs last proposal, I'd say the players have a mind for themselves. However, this being a lockout and not a strike, it is best for the players to stand united, and when dealing with guys who have for their lifetime believed in the team aspect, it's a pretty indestructible force. I still don't understand why you clowns think the owners require your support, when their decisions are unilateral, not taking into consideration any of their fan base. Supporting the owners is counter intuitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Rey, surely you understand that owners are responsible for the contracts they sign, right? If they think players are getting too much they could stop giving them ridiculous contracts. They can spend to the floor and not the ceiling. If owning a NHL team is a bad investment that's on them as the one who knew that going in but did it anyway. No sense complaining if your lemon team is still a lemon after you buy it. Yes, players are (and should be) nervous about the lost revenue, but so should the owners. If they are really doing as badly as they try to say (read back a few pages for proof that's a lie) they will be even more hurt by the lost revenue and potential backlash from fans. You seem to think it's the players' fault we're here and the NHL thanks you. That's what their expensive (how can they afford it if they're poor?!) PR firm wants you to think not because they care about fans but because they know pissed fans don't spend money. They want you to forget they locked out the players even though the players offered to play under the old CBA until a deal was reached, which would have been better financially for all involved and owners could have asked for a binding no-job-action agreement to ensure players wouldn't later strike. They want you to forget they are the ones turning down offers to negotiate. They want you to forget their first proposal, by all accounts, was never meant to be taken seriously despite being offered with an ultimatum and being followed by a lockout. They want you to forget they are coming off years of record setting revenue despite the crappy economy. They want you to forget they offer less revenue sharing among teams than any other professional league despite the fact that small improvements in that alone could make most teams profitable. They want you to forget owners got everything they wanted last time and will in all likelihood lockout players again next time if they are yet again allowed to use it as a means to get what they want. They want you to forget that it was the owners who found ways around the rules they created last time. And they want you to simply push the players to just give in out of desperation for hockey now with no concern for how bad that will be for fans in the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Lmao, where are you getting this Iginla losing 22m nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Rey, surely you understand that owners are responsible for the contracts they sign, right? If they think players are getting too much they could stop giving them ridiculous contracts. They can spend to the floor and not the ceiling. If owning a NHL team is a bad investment that's on them as the one who knew that going in but did it anyway. No sense complaining if your lemon team is still a lemon after you buy it. Yes, players are (and should be) nervous about the lost revenue, but so should the owners. If they are really doing as badly as they try to say (read back a few pages for proof that's a lie) they will be even more hurt by the lost revenue and potential backlash from fans. You seem to think it's the players' fault we're here and the NHL thanks you. That's what their expensive (how can they afford it if they're poor?!) PR firm wants you to think not because they care about fans but because they know pissed fans don't spend money. They want you to forget they locked out the players even though the players offered to play under the old CBA until a deal was reached, which would have been better financially for all involved and owners could have asked for a binding no-job-action agreement to ensure players wouldn't later strike. They want you to forget they are the ones turning down offers to negotiate. They want you to forget their first proposal, by all accounts, was never meant to be taken seriously despite being offered with an ultimatum and being followed by a lockout. They want you to forget they are coming off years of record setting revenue despite the crappy economy. They want you to forget they offer less revenue sharing among teams than any other professional league despite the fact that small improvements in that alone could make most teams profitable. They want you to forget owners got everything they wanted last time and will in all likelihood lockout players again next time if they are yet again allowed to use it as a means to get what they want. They want you to forget that it was the owners who found ways around the rules they created last time. And they want you to simply push the players to just give in out of desperation for hockey now with no concern for how bad that will be for fans in the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Unfortunately, if you had a brain. You would know that the NHL Owners aren't Bettman aren't going to move unless Fehr gives in. The players lose much more. Neither party gives a crap about the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Well petty insults, it seems I underestimated your inability to coherently convey a message. In all honesty your probably not worth this post, as it currently seems you are plugging your ears and stomping your feet like an 8 y/o. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Edit: Was looking for a really good post on Hfboard, but it got deleted, probably by mods since that place has been taken over by the mods these days. Anyways, it compares all the leagues. NHL players make more than every other major league, despite being worth the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Well, an update at least: https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/264488981226471424 As we just discussed on Sportscentre. NHL advised PA it will absorb share of Make Whole provision. This is a considerable concession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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