Mauii Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 MAUII- I stopped reading here: Actually well written contracts should be clear, written in plain english, easily legible and interpreted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-52 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 G-52 if youre a practicing lawyer and have been in the field long enough, you would know this. Unless, you're a junior then the attitude makes sense. I've worked with enough junior lawyers and they're usually the least knowledgeable of the pack and some more ego then brains. The smartest ones know that they don't know everything. I prefer working with senior lawyers who are seasoned and have the wisdom to be egoless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 roll·back /ˈrōlˌbak/ Noun A reduction or decrease. Verb Restore (a database) to a previously defined state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauii Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I'm not, nor have I ever said I was a lawyer, I simply passed the BAR and then changed professions. I do know enough though to say that contracts are very rarely EASY to read or understand. In-fact they are usually designed that way.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Just using rough math, I think the league HRR was3.3billion last year..so 57% of that was 1.8billion, the players salaries as it were. Now using that 3.3billion number, but dropping to 50% is 1.65billion...so the drop in salary is roughly the amount on the table in 'make whole' money..thus the 'making it whole". This half seasons cap can stay the same, becuase the owners are tossing in the escrow, basically. Or at least what would ahve been the escrow at last years revenue numbers. There is bound to be a hit on that from the lockout and so players will still lose a little in the escrow process. At least that is how i see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Costanza Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 4m Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger Told the NHL is still waiting for the PA to arrive at league headquarters. Meanwhile, this just in...Times Square is mayhem! 1h Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger CBA mtng now likely closer to 2pm... 2h Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger Will PA proposal contain "tweaks" and "trades" or will it be an item by item breakdown contrary to NHL request? Probably a bit of both. 2h Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger CBA mtng expected to begin between 1pm - 1:30pm. Players will present counter to NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 4m Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger Told the NHL is still waiting for the PA to arrive at league headquarters. Meanwhile, this just in...Times Square is mayhem! 1h Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger CBA mtng now likely closer to 2pm... 2h Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger Will PA proposal contain "tweaks" and "trades" or will it be an item by item breakdown contrary to NHL request? Probably a bit of both. 2h Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger CBA mtng expected to begin between 1pm - 1:30pm. Players will present counter to NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 @RealKyper Stupidest move in negotiation history! Scheduling meeting in NYC on New Years eve. Scene outside #NHL office 6th ave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 @RealKyper Stupidest move in negotiation history! Scheduling meeting in NYC on New Years eve. Scene outside #NHL office 6th ave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 They are clearly relying on Ryan Seacrest and the ghost of Dick Clark to solve this thing. It is a dumb move... I never thought of it. I have been to NYC and the NHL office is only a couple blocks from Times Square right in midtown Manhattan. Yeesh... spring for a conference room in Brooklyn or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Lol, and here's a video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 @reporterchris We've hit the hour mark and talks continue between the NHL and NHLPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Shirokov Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 If hockey starts on Jan 15th...could we get more than 48 games in? Or would they just space out the games more since the schedule will alrdy be packed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-52 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 A term in labour law is not the same as a term in general usage. It is defined differently. In labour law you make things mean something very specific based on precedent and agreed usage. Anyone should know this after a first year contract law class. You do this so that everyone knows exactly what each word means and how it functions. A "Strike" doesn't mean to hit something for example even though that is what it says in the dictionary. A rollback doesn't mean escrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-52 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 If hockey starts on Jan 15th...could we get more than 48 games in? Or would they just space out the games more since the schedule will alrdy be packed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck_trevor16 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I hope we can get some good news no??? Are we expecting some press conference of the result of the talks/update of anything good coming out of this meeting before new year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 It would be nice to celebrate New Years with a new CBA. But I'm not holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Lol, and here's a video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 @RenLavoieRDS NHL is looking at the NHLPA offer internally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 You keep assuming I am using the word rollback as a different term every time you tell me im wrong. At least pick one. Furthermore the HIGHLIGHTS written by a reporter are NOT the agreement... You are looking too deep into the medias representation of this whole fiasco. Use a little common sense and analyze a little less because the people providing you with the information you are analyzing are idiots and only want to make more news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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