D-Bo7 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Obviously they're going to take a break, this shouldn't be surprising. Both sides have probably made their best offers by now, and now it's just a matter of the NHLPA accepting it or taking time and presenting another counter offer. These things take time. Which is why they should have never started so late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_fo_life Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 April 22nd, the last time we got to see the Canucks play.....I dont know if I can handle another lockout, I dont know how i got through 2004-2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Bo7 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 People also have to remember that the owners are not all likely on the same page. I'm sure they have to do their own negotiating amongst themselves. Because in reality, what Canucks ownership wants is probably not the same as what New Jersey's ownership wants. From the sounds of it, Bettman is speaking more on behalf of the teams that are struggling, rather than the teams that are doing well. If I was one of the teams that is doing well, I would be pissed that Bettman keeps trying to throw money at teams that are doing bad, rather than addressing the real issue; which is that these teams are just in bad markets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckbeliever Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 So you know for a fact that all owners suported the 2005 CBA? Hard to believe given what followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckbeliever Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Not sure how the owners can cry foul on this one. Absolutely pathetic. The system works for the owners, the league as a whole is making record profit yet there is going to be a lockout. Please tell me how that makes any sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Going to be a long year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshinefe Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Look at the body language of the star players in that photo--probably a lot more telling than the double-speak of Fehr. Looks like the negotiations aren't going very well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Bo7 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Not sure how the owners can cry foul on this one. Absolutely pathetic. The system works for the owners, the league as a whole is making record profit yet there is going to be a lockout. Please tell me how that makes any sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Bo7 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Look at the body language of the star players in that photo--probably a lot more telling than the double-speak of Fehr. Looks like the negotiations aren't going very well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 It is even harder to feel sorry for billioniare owners, especially when they won the last lockout and got what they wanted.Now they want more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 It's not on the table but the League has to do something about guaranteed contracts. A player signs a contract based on one or two good years of play then sucks for the length of the contract and still gets paid millions of dollars. Redden, Yashin and Horcoff come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Bo7 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 It is even harder to feel sorry for billioniare owners, especially when they won the last lockout and got what they wanted.Now they want more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown33429 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 It's their money. They're taking all the risk and are the ones that lose if the organization is losing money. Players get paid no matter what. So no, the players are just as greedy. When a player like Doan is getting offered 7.5 mil per year, something is not right with the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Bo7 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 You're right. We shouldn't blame the owners offering the money, but rather players who are being offered the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal1 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Yes I do it was a unanimous decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully2Cool Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 So frustrating listening to fehr and "Bett on a lockout" man. Will start following nfl and cfl... Tired of the garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey Coach12 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Since the 2005 lockout, the NHL has recorded record profits. The league/owners won that lockout by a landslide, the players took the hit because they just wanted to play and get paid. It's really no big surprise now that the NHLPA is digging in it's heels and is unwilling to talk on the terms of what the league offered on Tuesday. I really was hopeful that the league would look outside the box at the PA offer earlier this month. Other than the term, it seemed like a decent deal. But I certainly don't want to be going through this again in 4 years! That was a area that they probably could have worked out, but the league/owners have been unwilling to look at other ways to avoid this type of problem in the future. It certainly looks like it is gonna be a long fall/winter without hockey! God, I hate Bettman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 The only things to look forward to for the next 12 months hockey wise: 12 Months talking about increasing net size and decreasing pad size. Rules summit World Juniors World Championships World Cup? Draft Mega Free Agency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Shirokov Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Not sure how the owners can cry foul on this one. Absolutely pathetic. The system works for the owners, the league as a whole is making record profit yet there is going to be a lockout. Please tell me how that makes any sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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