Ossi Vaananen Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Oh so like how well the league does financially will determine how much more he can make on his contract signed under the old cba that was rolled back in the new cba? Or just any contract has the ability to grow 30% if his team makes money? Or is this to do with the back diving contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 It's 30% variance year to year. So a deal could start at 10m in the first year and drop to 7m in the second. It's more for cap hit compliance, and I suppose it could work for UFA's in their early 30s who would make virtually nothing by the end of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 It's 30% variance year to year. So a deal could start at 10m in the first year and drop to 7m in the second. It's more for cap hit compliance, and I suppose it could work for UFA's in their early 30s who would make virtually nothing by the end of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 The issue's in this league run way deeper than anything this CBA could fix, the NHL keeps trying to take from the players to fix there mistakes. There is no reason this should be pinned on the players if we don't start a season, they just try to protect what they have left, guarenteed contracts will go out the window. Changing this cap won't fix anything, we will be right back here again at the end of the next CBA, when the big market teams push the cap up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 It's hard for an owner to stay motivated about a league that makes them 0 dollars. That's not a good investment no matter how you spin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Optimist Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I don't know why Raymond is creeping into this CBA talk but i will say here now that I don't like him as a Canuck..I wish he stayed on his feet and was tougher/stronger. That last wraparound he tried and failed at staying on his skates finished him off as a potential for me...now he is older than a young up and comer and he still hasn't arrived...so he is, for me, a plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I don't know why Raymond is creeping into this CBA talk but i will say here now that I don't like him as a Canuck..I wish he stayed on his feet and was tougher/stronger. That last wraparound he tried and failed at staying on his skates finished him off as a potential for me...now he is older than a young up and comer and he still hasn't arrived...so he is, for me, a plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 If they don't get a deal done now, it will be all on the players. These guys have to realize that they've had it pretty good for the last little while, but it wasn't going to continue forever. The rest of the world is in a recession, and alot of people don't even have jobs. Just check your egos and sign a deal. They're going to be making more than they could be playing anywhere else, or doing anything else. Passing up a full years pay because of principle is not a smart thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Do your principles have a price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Provost Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I understand that. But the issues the NHL has right now are real, and they need to be addressed. The only way to do that in the next year or two is to reduce player salaries. The only real way to fix the problem, is to get teams out of weak markets. That isn't something the league can do overnight, it takes years and years. They have to make sure they have good owners and proper arenas in place in the markets they want to move to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 They managed to move Atlanta pretty darn fast. I think it is incorrect to say that lowering player salary is the only way to fix things. As you know and continue to disregard... there is plenty of money overall in the NHL pot. The owners can re-allocate those profits around to give them time to get their league-wide finances in order. that reallocation can happen immediately. The bottom end teams are doing really well out of this agreement. Some increase in revenue sharing; much lower cap floor; ability to retain cap space/salary (meaning they can get a lot of good players being dumped by cap ceiling teams for next to nothing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Again, people mistaking revenue for profit. Profit is the only thing that matters in business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 @reporterchris The NHLPA says it expects to hear from mediator Scot Beckenbaugh tomorrow morning about when CBA talks will resume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosama Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Raymond played 49.39 SH minutes and still ended up with a +4, whereas Booth played less than 2 minutes SH ended with a -5. Even in shot accuracy, probably Raymond's biggest weakness, he wasn't that far beyond Booth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Lp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Just for the record, and this is under the assumption that you were saying that Raymond should have a lower +/- because he's on the PK, which I may have misunderstood, players on the PK don't receive minuses when they are scored against, and players on the PP don't receive pluses when they score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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UFCanuck Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 They're just going to keep squeezing each other until late on the 11th. We've missed training camp, pre-season, the Boston game, and 3 months of hockey. I can get through 1 more week, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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