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at least the babysitter is earning his pay. unfortunately for him he is dealing with a bunch of children that dont want to eat their vegetables at dinner.

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‏@ElliottPap

D.Sedin on maybe going home to play if season axed: "We're going to talk to Markus (Naslund) in the next few days. You have to be prepared."

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@EricOnSportsLaw

If the NHLPA disclaims - and that can be as soon as tomorrow at 6:01 - they do so to try and get this settled in short term and save season

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If the NHLPA disclaims - and that can be as soon as tomorrow at 6:01 - they do so to try and get this settled in short term and save season

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I think we all agree on that, although there's certainly some discussion on how best to eliminate cap circumvention and back diving contracts without unnecessarily punishing players and limited GM creativity. The players have agreed to less of the pie and realize future contracts will be signed for less as a result. They do ask the NHL is honest about HRR and stand behind contract agreements they made knowing full well the financial standing of the league despite record revenues over the last CBA. I don't think that's too much to ask.

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The real question is:

Does anybody really believe that there will actually be a season?

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You need to go away now. Your ignorance contributes nothing here and you clearly have no desire to rectify that.

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The real question is:

Does anybody really believe that there will actually be a season?

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The real question is:

Does anybody really believe that there will actually be a season?

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There is one MASSIVE flaw with the players trying to say the NHL was trying to pull a fast one.

....the fact that Fehr won't comment, and the fact that they're not releasing anything or showing anything, just makes it seem like an attempt to smear and an excuse to start up another DOI/decertification vote.

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There is one MASSIVE flaw with the players trying to say the NHL was trying to pull a fast one.

If the NHLPA released the documents, and pointed this out, they could crap all over the NHL in the press and everything. They'd have the NHL's balls in a vice. But the fact that Fehr won't comment, and the fact that they're not releasing anything or showing anything, just makes it seem like an attempt to smear and an excuse to start up another DOI/decertification vote.

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Oh tell me where I should go oh great wise one - you're so much wiser than everyone here - why on earth are you even wasting your time with us?

BTW - look in the mirror as far as your last comment Mr. Pot.

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You got it all wrong. I didn't say I'm smarter than everyone on here. Just that everyone on here is smarter than you.

Oh and look, a pot and the kettle joke. How quaint.

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I think there has to be.

We are to close, and I don't think either side has the guts to destroy this season over issue's like this.

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I don't see putting limits on contract terms as "punishing the players". I see it as ensuring the integrity of the salary cap. The "for life" deals allow those teams to exceed the cap in payroll which in turn drives salaries upwards. Which in turn makes it difficult for the teams already losing money to retain players they've developed and compete. The whole idea of a salary cap is to create a level playing field. Allowing deals that circumvent the cap defeats the purpose of the cap. Without restrictions on contract terms you may as well do away with the false cap and let the money teams dominate the league as they did before the cap.

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That is trying to put a rational perspective on things. In reality there has been no real reason not to be playing since they agreed on 50/50 and $300 million in make whole funds (I think that was in mid November)

Nothing else matters much.

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LP

Does anyone remember or have a link to the thread that showed how to get the last page while on mobile?

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