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*Official* CBA Negotiations and Lockout Thread

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Anyone wondering why all of these details are flowing out so freely now?

Is this a good thing?

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i hope its a good thing as long is it doesn't blow up in everyone's face like last time

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Maybe Beckenbaugh should present the Cup instead of Bettman.

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Ossi, or anyone else, any idea on a couple of other issues that were being batted around earlier;

Is two buyouts still on order?

Also is there anything to earlier discussions of being able to trade a player, but pay up to half his real dollar salary?

Or absorb up to half the cap to make a deal go...?

Ok so as a review, Centre for Disease Control. The issues at hand:

- Length of CBA (players want 7-8 year max, owners want 10 year max - opt out option at 8 year)

- Make whole amount (players want 393m, owners offer 300m with 50m in pension - both are contingent upon 10 year deal)

- Salary cap for 2013/14 season (seems to be the biggest issue, players want 65m cap, owners 60m - though having no cap on escrow shouldn't create such an issue)

- Pension (seems to have popped up recently, current proposal has players paying pension)

- Max contract length and variance (players want 8 year contract max, owners want 6 year max - 7 for RFA, current variance proposal is 30%)

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yep, no doctor is going to say someone coming back from 2 surgeries doesnt need more rehab time to get back to "normal" let alone a professional athlete.

on the CBA front: seems eerily quiet, usually there is some leaking info of what meetings going on/whos in it/what its about. Seems like it really could be almost over.

oh and the longest face to face meeting in well over a month.

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Ossi, or anyone else, any idea on a couple of other issues that were being batted around earlier;

Is two buyouts still on order?

Also is there anything to earlier discussions of being able to trade a player, but pay up to half his real dollar salary?

Or absorb up to half the cap to make a deal go...?

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I like the 2 buyouts option....

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I am curious to know the timeframe for the buyouts.

Since they are being suggested to deal with next year's lowered cap I assume they will still be active for after this season.

Is there going to be a time limit on this?

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Ossi, or anyone else, any idea on a couple of other issues that were being batted around earlier;

Is two buyouts still on order?

Also is there anything to earlier discussions of being able to trade a player, but pay up to half his real dollar salary?

Or absorb up to half the cap to make a deal go...?

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They could have changed the goal posts again, but as I understand it the buyouts would have to take place before the 2013/14 season and they would come out of the players' share but not count against the team's cap.

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They could have changed the goal posts again, but as I understand it the buyouts would have to take place before the 2013/14 season and they would come out of the players' share but not count against the team's cap.

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