Raiun Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I think it's funny how many people in this thread think the players are just overpaid and greedy and should just play for the love of the game or whatever. Fact of the matter is, the NHL makes a crapload of money, because people are willing to pay to see the game played. The game requires players. When I go to a hockey game, it is to see the players play, not to line the pockets of the owner of the team, or the GM of the team or the coach, or any of the support staff or whatever. Those people are necessary sure, but the main event is the players, without them, the coach, GM, staff, whatever, none of those positions would exist because there would be NO TEAM. I feel it is appropriate for the players, who are the people that actually bring in the money, to take a large portion of the profits. Can you imagine how stupidly rich the owners of these teams would be if none of the players in the league were paid more than the average person? Say, 90-120k a year for top end players? It would be ludicrous to imagine that, given how much money teams make. Sports and other media are probably the only jobs in the world where the people who make the money receive an actual proportional amount of the money that the business earns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks3322 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Yup I think a former hockey player/lawyer kind of like Mike Gillis would make for a better Commish and representative of the NHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudson bay rules Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Not gunna read 6 pages of speculation and hyperbole but I'm not surprised one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I like how this writer put it. By my inexact calculation, approximately $5.27 billion is owed players under current contracts. Does anyone for a moment believe the union would agree to what would be a giveback of more than $1.26 billion going forward? Is Bettman prepared to tell Sidney Crosby he can’t play unless he surrenders $25.856 million of the $111.9 million he has coming to him? Shea Weber has $97 million coming to him; Ilya Kovalchuk, Alex Ovechkin, Parise and Ryan Suter all have $88 million coming. Does anyone in his right mind believe they’re going to give back nearly a quarter of what they have been promised? Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/bettman_playing_dirty_I72It2kiVeijZpbgII0lnN#ixzz23MBYtmWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 In the case of a lockout, Jets AHL affiliate St. John's Icecaps may play some of their games at Winnipeg's MTS Centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaches Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 As lockout looms, NHL has leeway on Winter Classic: The NHL can cancel the 2013 Winter Classic at 115,000-seat Michigan Stadium as late as Jan. 1, the day of the game, because of a work stoppage “arising from the lack of a collective bargaining agreement,” the contract between the league and the University of Michigan shows. The league would forfeit only $100,000 of its $3-million stadium rental fee, according to the contract. The rest of the fee would be refunded by the university. The contract provisions give the league some leeway for salvaging its showcase event should a lockout delay the start of the 2012-13 season, enabling the NHL to hold the Winter Classic even if a lockout is settled in late December. A lockout seems increasingly likely after Commissioner Gary Bettman said Thursday that “the owners are not prepared to operate under this collective bargaining agreement for another season.” The current agreement between the league and the players’ union expires Sept. 15, and the two sides seem far apart. The league’s initial offer, made July 13, proposed cutting player salaries by 24 per cent and offered what Bettman called “tweaks” to the current limited revenue-sharing plan between rich and poor clubs. The union’s initial offer, to be made Tuesday in Toronto, is expected to volunteer no salary cuts and propose broad reforms to revenue sharing. Many hockey fans are counting on the economic pressure generated by the lucrative Winter Classic to act as a brake against the loss of the entire NHL season. The last time Bettman and the NHL owners locked out the players, in 2004-5, the full season was lost. This Classic would match the Detroit Red Wings against the Toronto Maple Leafs in Ann Arbor before an anticipated capacity crowd, which would break the world record for hockey attendance. The Winter Classic is the centrepiece of NBC’s coverage of the NHL, for which the league receives about $200-million a year. The Leafs, the first Canadian team in the Winter Classic, are Canada’s most popular club. Their presence would ensure huge viewership on CBC, which pays the league $100-million a year for television rights. The game also produces millions in ticket, sponsorship and advertising revenue for the league. The NHL’s contract with Michigan, approved by the university’s Board of Regents on Feb. 9, contains provisions that treat a work stoppage in a way similar to a “force majeure” cancellation brought about by act of God, riot, weather, disaster or any other cause beyond the league’s control. “It’s standard for us to include force majeure provisions in virtually all of our contracts,” said Bill Daly, the NHL deputy commissioner, “and if we anticipated the possibility of a work stoppage in particular, it certainly wouldn’t have been unusual.” Donald Fehr, the executive director of the players’ union, declined to comment. According to the contract, the NHL will have the use of Michigan Stadium from Dec. 1 through Jan. 9, mostly for construction of the ice rink on the stadium floor and, after the game, its removal. There is no provision in the contract for the Winter Classic to be played at Ann Arbor later in 2013 because of a work stoppage or for any other reason, and Daly said last week that there was no other agreement to play the game later in the year. The NHL-Michigan contract stipulates that the league forfeit $100,000 if it cancels the Winter Classic before Nov. 3. On Nov. 3 or after, a cancellation would cost the league $100,000 and any expenses incurred by the university in connection to the game. The contract does not cover an associated slate of outdoor games at Detroit’s Comerica Park involving Red Wings and Maple Leafs alumni teams as well as NCAA, minor league and junior teams. None of those would be officially affected by an NHL work stoppage, but it is unclear whether they would be played if the Winter Classic was cancelled. Comerica Park is owned by the Ilitch family, which also owns the Red Wings. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/as-lockout-looms-nhl-has-leeway-on-winter-classic/article4478116/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Goodman Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Bettman must die! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I'm already missing hockey enough as it is, but I do believe the league needs to change. The Rule books needs to be re-read by the officials and go back to post-lock out calls not this bullsh*t L.A. and Boston won with the past two seasons. Bettman needs to be fired, I just love when he gets booed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 He's actually been a GREAT commissioner.... for the owners. They're the ones who hired him and pay his salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Doughty Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 i'ma start my own league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Bettman needs to be set on fire, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Every day I work I get paid for it. Am I greedy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully2Cool Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I have no doubt there will be a lockout. The players have hired a guy who took MLB players to a strike that cancelled the MLB play offs and World Series. He has no connection to hockey other than being a hired gun to get the best possible deal for the NHLPA. I say Bettman should stick to his guns and lock out the players if a favourable deal is not reached. There are several problems that need to be fixed and this is the chance to get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Here's the issue: Bettman has the right to declare a lockout if only EIGHT owners say they agree with that. Thats not even close to a majority, and essentially with the NHL owning pheonix right now it means only SEVEN teams have to agree with Bettman - less than a quarter of them! The NHL is a dictatorship plain and simple. If he has a problem with player salaries cutting in to revenues, maybe he should look at his outrageously inflated $7+ million salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Not sure if sarcasm but... @JeffMarek: "..there is a lockout." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Bettman must die! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Here's the issue: Bettman has the right to declare a lockout if only EIGHT owners say they agree with that. Thats not even close to a majority, and essentially with the NHL owning pheonix right now it means only SEVEN teams have to agree with Bettman - less than a quarter of them! The NHL is a dictatorship plain and simple. If he has a problem with player salaries cutting in to revenues, maybe he should look at his outrageously inflated $7+ million salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Every day I work I get paid for it. Am I greedy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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