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*Official* CBA Negotiations and Lockout Thread

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I'm listening to Bob McCown right now and he had an interesting theory that reportedly came from an owner.  I may have some of the details wrong, but the basic theory was that if they cancel the season, in the spring the NHL could say "Here is the new deal, take it or leave it", and drop the lockout.  Then the players would be forced to either accept the deal, or go on strike.  However, his speculation was, at that point, at least a third of the players, maybe even half, would opt to cross the picket line and report to work.  This would essentially break the back of the union.

My question is... legally, can the NHL even do that if they wanted to?  Or are they required to come to an agreement with the NHLPA before opening the doors?

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The NHL is a strange entity...they seem to lack any sense of legal or business accountability, and this CBA negotiation is really bringing all this to light.

Perhaps the only way the lock out be lifted and have players back on the ice is with the old CBA which has been agreed upon, which the NHLPA had proposed. I have to say, the NHLPA is sounding more and more up and up on this whole CBA negotiation, and sounding like they know more what they're doing then the NHL. Maybe Fehr for Commissioner? He reminds me of a brilliant lawyer I used to work for...always 3 steps ahead of everyone and much revered by everyone that has crossed his path...thereafter my experiences with any other lawyer went down hill from there...often more ego then brains. Brilliant lawyers with the right acumen and no ego are hard to come by.

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@NabilKarimTSN

@BarackObama on Leno on @NHL lockout: "You guys make money (owners and players) b/c you have a whole bunch fans out there, who are working really hard, they buy tickets and they're watching on tv. Ya'll should be able to figure this out. Get this done" #TSN #NHL

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players don't want to take another pay cut, NHL has asked the players to take a 24% reduction in the new cba. Why? Record breaking years the last 2 seasons and your asking the players to take more cut? This doesn't make sense to the NHLPA. NHL is trying to low ball them not sure why. The only clause I like in the NHL offer is max 5 year contracts, thats the only thing I like about it.

it sucks.

In 2005 I sided with the owners

in 2012 I'm siding with the players on this one. They don't deserve a 24% reduction. I know they are millionares, but still, these owners are billionares.

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There should be hockey. Just leaves a terrible taste in ones mouth the excessively drawn out it goes.

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players don't want to take another pay cut, NHL has asked the players to take a 24% reduction in the new cba. Why? Record breaking years the last 2 seasons and your asking the players to take more cut? This doesn't make sense to the NHLPA. NHL is trying to low ball them not sure why. The only clause I like in the NHL offer is max 5 year contracts, thats the only thing I like about it.

it sucks.

In 2005 I sided with the owners

in 2012 I'm siding with the players on this one. They don't deserve a 24% reduction. I know they are millionares, but still, these owners are billionares.

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@BarackObama on Leno on @NHL lockout: "You guys make money (owners and players) b/c you have a whole bunch fans out there, who are working really hard, they buy tickets and they're watching on tv. Ya'll should be able to figure this out. Get this done" #TSN #NHL

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interesting seeing how the salary cap went from a high of 39M after the last lock out to a high of $70 during this lock out and the players lost in people's opinion.

In 2003-04 team pay rolls were before the salary cap was put into the league

ATL 24M

FLA 26M

MINN 26M

NASH 23M

PITTS 26M

Now these teams have to pay a minimum of 63ish M

Without these 30 owners willing to own these teams there would be 700 hockeys players grinding it out 9 to 5 like a lot of fans

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Has that windbag ever been stuck for something to say. Talk about flash and no substance.

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Now I know why you're so pro owners, you got those tea party "job creator" glasses on.

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They would be smart to end the lockout right now, They would get all of their fans back and everyone would be more excited then ever. Which equals more $.

The longer they wait the more money they lose from lost wages and angry fans.

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Bettman doesn't care about the fans, it's pretty clear. He takes us for granted, especially the Canadian fans.

The american fans will be fine as they would prefer to watch one of their other 3 pro franchises.

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Now I know why you're so pro owners, you got those tea party "job creator" glasses on.

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@BarackObama on Leno on @NHL lockout: "You guys make money (owners and players) b/c you have a whole bunch fans out there, who are working really hard, they buy tickets and they're watching on tv. Ya'll should be able to figure this out. Get this done" #TSN #NHL

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