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#5761 Provost

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:15 AM

How do you possibly get the league under a $60 million cap next year without half the teams buying out good players and dismantling their rosters?

Assume that you only carry a 22 man roster, and leave $1 million space for injury callups and plenty of teams can't even afford league minimum. (Bos, Van, Min, Phi, SJ, Chi, Mon, TB all have less than $585k per roster spot left)

Now keep in mind that even those teams that look OK with an average of $1 million available per roster spot... many of those teams need a couple top 6 forwards, at least 1 top 4 D, and even starting goalies. Also, a bunch of those teams aren't cap spending teams... so there is no one to pick up those bought out or UFA players.

Even the broke teams would need to make amnesty buyouts, and if those came out of the players' share... it would jump the escrow to a HUGE rollback.

Edited by Provost, 03 January 2013 - 01:28 AM.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:19 AM

Except we'll have to get rid of more than just Booth and Ballard. That's only 8.5 mil and we'll have to re-sign Edler, and Burrows also gets his pay raise.

We're gonna have to dump almost a quarter of our players to be cap compliant, and we don't exactly have a bunch of NHL ready prospects.

This is Bettman's way of screwing up the top teams competitiveness so that the weaker teams can have a chance to make the playoffs. Plus if they add 4 more teams to the playoffs, Bettman can make sure loser markets like Florida, Phoenix, and Columbus can make the playoffs every year.


Malhotra makes $2.5 and May Ray $2.275. They will both be UFA and off the books. They could be signed for much much cheaper because UFA's won't get as much money.

Higgins, Lappy and Alberts are also UFA who will also re-sign for cheaper.

KConn, Jensen and maybe Schroeder will be on the team, frankly I'd like to see some young kids on this team. It will add some energy.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:19 AM

So what will the cap floor go down to next season?

I don't see how this makes the weaker market teams more competitive. All it means is they will spend less; therefore nothing will change.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:26 AM

Also I don't think they will settle at $60 mill. It will pbbly be around $62 or $63.

I think its great idea. It will keep high end players in markets that developed them or attract high end talent from the rich teams.

Suter leaving NSH won't be as easy anymore. He would not be able to leave for more money with this new CBA. Love it.

Edited by WHL rocks, 03 January 2013 - 01:38 AM.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:33 AM

With cap at $67 mill escrow will be around 15% to 20%. With cap at $60 mill escrow would be at around 5% .

The higher cap helps players who will be UFA at end of year because they could sign for more money and everyone else share of escrow goes up to get to 50/50.

So the Sedins could end up paying $1.2 mill each into escrow at $67 mill cap or $300 k at the $60 mill cap. Guess what most of players that are already signed beyond next year want. That's right, $60 mill cap.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:33 AM

Also I don't think they will settle at $60 mill. It will pbbly be around $62 or $63.


Ya I was thinking this too, meeting in the middle so to speak would be ideal. 63m would be workable for most teams, though difficult for the Canucks.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:43 AM

Ya I was thinking this too, meeting in the middle so to speak would be ideal. 63m would be workable for most teams, though difficult for the Canucks.


The Canucks will be fine I think. Like I said above the likes of May Ray and Malhotra and Alberts will be UFA. Take them out and put in Sauve, Schroeder and Jensen. Your saving around $3 mill.

Take out Ballard and Booth and trade Lu and you've got another $14 mill off the books. I don't think its as bad.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:52 AM

With cap at $67 mill escrow will be around 15% to 20%. With cap at $60 mill escrow would be at around 5% .

The higher cap helps players who will be UFA at end of year because they could sign for more money and everyone else share of escrow goes up to get to 50/50.

So the Sedins could end up paying $1.2 mill each into escrow at $67 mill cap or $300 k at the $60 mill cap. Guess what most of players that are already signed beyond next year want. That's right, $60 mill cap.


Those numbers assume that there isn't a dip in revenue... it could easily be worse escrow. Make whole gives some of it back though.

I don't think you give the players enough credit though, they don't want to completely screw all their fellow players by having anyone with contracts coming up in the next 2 summers have to make less than $1 million per year.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:04 AM

The Canucks will be fine I think. Like I said above the likes of May Ray and Malhotra and Alberts will be UFA. Take them out and put in Sauve, Schroeder and Jensen. Your saving around $3 mill.

Take out Ballard and Booth and trade Lu and you've got another $14 mill off the books. I don't think its as bad.


You do have to replace those players though.... and having a team full of non-elite rookies isn't exactly a winning recipe:

Here is the example:

- putting in Burrows already signed raise
- moving Edler up a very modest $500k from his current salary (in a depressed market he couldn't get $5 million).
- If you buy out Booth you have to find someone else at probably a similar or worse salary.
- Re-sign Higgins and Lapierre to the same deals
- slot in minimum wage plugs in place of Weise, Ebbett, and Volpatti (or re-sign them to the same deals)
- Give Tanev a slight raise to $1.4 million

You would be unlikely to even get these guys signed for these contract amounts, and even if you could, this is still a crappy roster by most accounts. Not only does it not give you the $2 million you need for injury callups... but also doesn't even fit under the cap.

FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Nicklas Jensen ($0.894m)
Chris Higgins ($1.900m) / Jordan Schroeder ($1.025m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
Aaron Volpatti ($0.600m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
Andrew Ebbett ($0.600m) / Dale Weise ($0.615m)

DEFENSEMEN
Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) / Jason Garrison ($4.600m)
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Alexander Edler ($3.750m)
Chris Tanev ($1.300m) / Andrew Alberts ($1.225m)
Yann Sauve ($0.875m) /

GOALTENDERS
Cory Schneider ($4.000m)
Eddie Lack ($0.750m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $60,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,404,167; BONUSES: $237,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $0

Edited by Provost, 03 January 2013 - 02:16 AM.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:16 AM

You do have to replace those players though.... and having a team full of non-elite rookies isn't exactly a winning recipe:

Here is the example putting in Burrows already signed raise, and moving Edler up a very modest $500k from his current salary (in a depressed market he couldn't get $5 million). If you buy out Booth you have to find someone else at probably a similar or worse salary. If you can re-sign Higgins and Lapierre to the same deals, and slot in minimum wage plugs in place of Weise, Ebbett, and Volpatti (or re-sign them to the same deals) this is still a crappy roster by most accounts and it doesn't leave you a cent for injury callups.

FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Nicklas Jensen ($0.894m)
Chris Higgins ($1.900m) / Jordan Schroeder ($1.025m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
Aaron Volpatti ($0.600m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
Andrew Ebbett ($0.600m) / Dale Weise ($0.615m)

DEFENSEMEN
Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) / Jason Garrison ($4.600m)
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Alexander Edler ($3.750m)
Chris Tanev ($0.900m) / Andrew Alberts ($1.225m)
Yann Sauve ($0.875m) /

GOALTENDERS
Cory Schneider ($4.000m)
Eddie Lack ($0.750m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $60,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,004,167; BONUSES: $237,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $0


I'd rather see Higgins-Kesler-Booth play together, and have a third line of Jensen-Schroeder-Hansen (2 way speed line). But I see your point, the lineup is definitely weaker.

But if you think about it, Jensen only has to be as good as Raymond, and Schroeder has to be as good as Malhotra or Hodgson, which time will tell.

I think Tanev can be as good as Ballard, but beyond that I think our depth on D will be significantly weaker if we don't make some upgrades.

And then our depth in net is obviously another weak point.

I think those things can be addressed in a Luongo and Ballard trade though.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:26 AM

Those numbers assume that there isn't a dip in revenue... it could easily be worse escrow. Make whole gives some of it back though.

I don't think you give the players enough credit though, they don't want to completely screw all their fellow players by having anyone with contracts coming up in the next 2 summers have to make less than $1 million per year.


That's true, these numbers don't account for a dip in revenue.We don't know how much it will dip but I think it will for sure.

On the second part I really don't give them the credit you seem to. $1 million is a lot of money. I don't think the Sedins want to donate $1 mill each to PA next year. They could always give a mill each in gifts to other players. Don't believe that will happen.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:29 AM

You do have to replace those players though.... and having a team full of non-elite rookies isn't exactly a winning recipe:

Here is the example:

- putting in Burrows already signed raise
- moving Edler up a very modest $500k from his current salary (in a depressed market he couldn't get $5 million).
- If you buy out Booth you have to find someone else at probably a similar or worse salary.
- Re-sign Higgins and Lapierre to the same deals
- slot in minimum wage plugs in place of Weise, Ebbett, and Volpatti (or re-sign them to the same deals)
- Give Tanev a slight raise to $1.4 million

You would be unlikely to even get these guys signed for these contract amounts, and even if you could, this is still a crappy roster by most accounts. Not only does it not give you the $2 million you need for injury callups... but also doesn't even fit under the cap.

FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Nicklas Jensen ($0.894m)
Chris Higgins ($1.900m) / Jordan Schroeder ($1.025m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
Aaron Volpatti ($0.600m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
Andrew Ebbett ($0.600m) / Dale Weise ($0.615m)

DEFENSEMEN
Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) / Jason Garrison ($4.600m)
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Alexander Edler ($3.750m)
Chris Tanev ($1.300m) / Andrew Alberts ($1.225m)
Yann Sauve ($0.875m) /

GOALTENDERS
Cory Schneider ($4.000m)
Eddie Lack ($0.750m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $60,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,404,167; BONUSES: $237,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $0


I think Edler will pbbly cost a mill more but if Canucks are allowed 2 amnesty buyouts I think Booth will be gone replaced with a cheaper player of the UFA list. All players will get less money so Canucks might get a pretty good replacement at $2.5 mill and give the difference to Edler. Also I think the CBA will end up with around $63 mill cap hit so you have about $2.5 mill more to spend on your lineup.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:36 AM

Details getting out to the media=bad sign.
This isn't good.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 03:19 AM

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Edited by WHL rocks, 03 January 2013 - 03:27 AM.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 03:23 AM

Team came out flat. Game set match.

This ain't Suban's fault alone. The whole team came out unprepared to play.

Perhaps they accidently ordered decaf coffee before the game, being in Russia and all.


Wrong thread?
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 03:26 AM

Wrong thread?


oops with CDC being so slow, i screwed up. Takes like 2 mins to load the page.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 04:08 AM

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:26 AM

Also I don't think they will settle at $60 mill. It will pbbly be around $62 or $63.

I think its great idea. It will keep high end players in markets that developed them or attract high end talent from the rich teams.

Suter leaving NSH won't be as easy anymore. He would not be able to leave for more money with this new CBA. Love it.


This was supposed to be the end result of the last CBA. GM's and owners found loopholes in the system, the league raised the cap way too quickly (it went from $39 million to $56 million (or thereabouts) within 2-3 years), and the salary basement was too close to the the ceiling.

The NHL, and especially fans from Canadian and other traditional market franchises, would be better served with a soft-ish salary cap that the NBA has (think "Larry Bird rights" in terms of going over the cap) or a hybrid mix of a salary cap and MLB's luxury system. What today's salary cap max would be would then become the luxury ceiling, with the hard salary cap being somewhere between $5- and $10-million above the luxury ceiling.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:41 AM

The issues remaining seem to be smaller ones. The whole thing has been a tactical game. The NHL has held out as long as they can before committing to a deal. Each of the remaining issues will pretty much get met half way. The NHL is still holding out on certain things, but they will start moving over the next 7 days in order to close the deal.

Basically the shortened season is on. Good luck Canucks!
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:03 AM

"But if you think about it, Jensen only has to be as good as Raymond, and Schroeder has to be as good as Malhotra or Hodgson, which time will tell.

I think Tanev can be as good as Ballard, but beyond that I think our depth on D will be significantly weaker if we don't make some upgrades."


Dear me, talk about fantasy hockey. DN you've been spending too much time on this lockout bull, your hockey judgement has just evaporated.
These 3 "only has to be as good as" are never going to happen. Not for a good few years at any rate.

Jensen is 4 years away from coming near to Raymond. (on a bad day)
As for putting Schroeder in Malhotra's or Hodgson's shoes, have you been watching the Wolves? (I know you have been which makes your statement even more jaw dropping)
I like the way you leave the best till last. Tanev "might" one day show Ballard's skills, speed, pushback, shot, stretch pass, checking ability..........but not in the next 5 years, if that.

I like optimism as much as the next guy but COME ON!
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:08 AM

"But if you think about it, Jensen only has to be as good as Raymond, and Schroeder has to be as good as Malhotra or Hodgson, which time will tell.

I think Tanev can be as good as Ballard, but beyond that I think our depth on D will be significantly weaker if we don't make some upgrades."


Dear me, talk about fantasy hockey. DN you've been spending too much time on this lockout bull, your hockey judgement has just evaporated.
These 3 "only has to be as good as" are never going to happen. Not for a good few years at any rate.

Jensen is 4 years away from coming near to Raymond. (on a bad day)
As for putting Schroeder in Malhotra's or Hodgson's shoes, have you been watching the Wolves? (I know you have been which makes your statement even more jaw dropping)
I like the way you leave the best till last. Tanev "might" one day show Ballard's skills, speed, pushback, shot, stretch pass, checking ability..........but not in the next 5 years, if that.

I like optimism as much as the next guy but COME ON!


Not hard to be as good as Raymond, skate along boards, dump it in, get hammered, fall down, get up, spin around net, fall down, repeat.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:12 AM

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:12 AM

Jensen 4 years away LOL, excuse me while I tinkle myself.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:12 AM

"But if you think about it, Jensen only has to be as good as Raymond, and Schroeder has to be as good as Malhotra or Hodgson, which time will tell.

I think Tanev can be as good as Ballard, but beyond that I think our depth on D will be significantly weaker if we don't make some upgrades."


Dear me, talk about fantasy hockey. DN you've been spending too much time on this lockout bull, your hockey judgement has just evaporated.
These 3 "only has to be as good as" are never going to happen. Not for a good few years at any rate.

I like optimism as much as the next guy but COME ON!


Absolutely!! I am not high on any of our Wolves prospects because when you see them play, they are seriously outshadowed by a guy like Ebbett. You had best be dominating the AHL if you want to have a chance at a fringe role in the NHL.

The only guy who "seems" like he has a legitimate spot as an NHL regular in the bear future is Jensen. I count Tanev as an NHLer already, but only a #6 guy at best for the foreseeable future.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:25 AM

Starting to get the idea that this is going to fall apart again. The League is holding onto things that aren't big deals for them (like next year's cap) and not letting the PA have any wins at all in this.

On top of that, it always seems that when the two sides think they have an agreement, it turns out the NHL is really just agreeing in principle and then trying to screw them in the details (eg. "Make Whole"... woo that sounds good. Oh wait, it doesn't mean make whole?" or "Amnesty buyouts... sounds good... oh wait, you want players to pay for them"

They haven't polished off most of the details so I fully expect the NHL to have a bunch of things in the nitty gritty that isn't as good as the PA thinks it is.

Edited by Provost, 03 January 2013 - 10:26 AM.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:26 AM

http://www.theglobea...article6893173/

But Bettman is under pressure from the owners, particularly those from smaller-revenue teams, to keep the payroll floor under control. The owners also want to maintain a salary range of $16-million from the floor to the cap, so they are not interested in the players’ suggestion to raise the second-year cap to $65-million but keep the same floor as a $60-million cap, which would be $44-million.
This has the potential to drive up escrow payments if league revenue rises but the players appear willing to take the risk.

If the gap gets wider than $16-million, Bettman feels the league’s competitive balance will be affected. This would give the rich teams more room to spend than the others. His resistance is such that this is now the biggest obstacle to an agreement.


The cap ceiling/floor, revenue sharing, and parity are all tied. Hopefully Bettman can let the parity slip a little and grow that 16m just a little to get a deal done.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:45 AM

@RenLavoieRDS: Nothing is done in cba until everything is done, but NHLPA agreed that buyouts before 2013-14 season, will count against players share.

@aaronward_nhl: Indication NHLPA is on the way over to NHL offices for smaller group meeting. #TSN
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:50 AM

@RenLavoieRDS: Players in the building. NHL CBA talks to resume soon.

@RenLavoieRDS: Don Fehr won't participate at this meeting with the league.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:52 AM


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NHLPA executive board will begin the process to have players approval to disclaim if no agreement is concluded by today.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:08 AM

Teemu Selanne thinks it ends on Monday:

You can count Anaheim Ducks forward Teemu Selanne as one of the people that believes we're in the final days of the NHL lockout.


He even has a specific date in mind for when it's all going to end: This upcoming Monday, Jan. 7.


In an interview with Finnish Website MTV3.fi (the same website where Selanne earlier blogged about Gary Bettman being the most hated man in the NHL) the veteran forward said that this is the first time the two sides have faced the pressure that the entire season really is in jeopardy, and that the players will be back in camp on Jan. 10.


The full comment, via translation by Finnish reporter Matias Strozyk on Twitter:


"I think the lockout ends next Monday, the 7th, camps begin on the 10th and the 1st game is on the 18th or 19th. Light at the end of the tunnel now since it's the 1st time NHL & owners have pressure and the whole season really is in jeopardy. Right now I'm optimistic & think the season will begin. We (players) have wondered why this has taken so long & NHL has taken that stance."


So maybe he didn't have a specific reason, but Hey, when Teemu Selanne talks, people listen.


For purely selfish reasons we hope he's right because we would hate to see his Hall of Fame career come to an end because of a cancelled season due to a lockout.


Selanne has already said that he will probably retire if the entire season is lost to the lockout.


He turned 42 back in July but is still playing at a high level in the NHL. In 82 games last season he scored 26 goals to go with 40 assists, leading the Ducks with 66 points.


In 1,341 career games he's scored 663 goals which places him 12th on the all-time list. If he gets an opportunity to play this year he should pass Luc Robitaille's 668 on the list.


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