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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:30 PM

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:33 PM

I could see the owners trying to pull another fast one on the players. They're getting squeezed pretty good at this point because Fehr waited them out. They've made more concessions in the last couple weeks than they did the last few months. I'm not saying Fehr "won", really there's no way the players win this in the conventional sense, but I do believe the owners are not super happy with the direction the momentum is going at the moment.

How would we know. Maybe the final deal will be very close to the one that Bettman promised to the owners in the summer. It's a negotiation he started with a massive low-ball offer and looks to be getting squeezed, when in actuality he's just getting closer to the realistic goal.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:37 PM

So the Owner's moved off the 60 cap and agreed on 65. That's great for our team. So now that the players moved to 10 year CBA and 7 years flat on contract limit, what else is left besides the Pension.

Now what stumbling blocks are left?

- Pension
- Limit on contracts? (Did the owner's accept 7)
- Salary Cap in year 2? (Did the players accept 65 like they should or are we still waiting for word)
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:39 PM

https://twitter.com/odognine2
https://twitter.com/BretHedican

Sounds like a deal might be imminent.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:41 PM

https://twitter.com/odognine2
https://twitter.com/BretHedican

Sounds like a deal might be imminent.


They were just trolling us.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:41 PM

So the Owner's moved off the 60 cap and agreed on 65. That's great for our team. So now that the players moved to 10 year CBA and 7 years flat on contract limit, what else is left besides the Pension.

Now what stumbling blocks are left?

- Pension
- Limit on contracts? (Did the owner's accept 7)
- Salary Cap in year 2? (Did the players accept 65 like they should or are we still waiting for word)


Supposedly the pension issues were 're' solved this morning.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:43 PM

So the Owner's moved off the 60 cap and agreed on 65. That's great for our team. So now that the players moved to 10 year CBA and 7 years flat on contract limit, what else is left besides the Pension.

Now what stumbling blocks are left?

- Pension
- Limit on contracts? (Did the owner's accept 7)
- Salary Cap in year 2? (Did the players accept 65 like they should or are we still waiting for word)


Owners wanted $60m

Players wanted $65m (originally $70M)

Working towards the middle.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:44 PM

Supposedly the pension issues were 're' solved this morning.


That's what I thought too.

Once we get this figured out I think the lockout is over though, everything thing else seems very close.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:48 PM

Owners wanted $60m

Players wanted $65m (originally $70M)

Working towards the middle.


Yeah well the report is that the Owners moved off 60 onto 65 so I'm just wondering if the players are fine with it at 65 (And they should be IMO)
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:48 PM

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:52 PM


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Told NHLPA has moved on the salary cap to 64.3 which happens to be the upper limit from last year. #TSN

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:53 PM

There is also a tweet that both sides agree to a 10 year CBA with a mutual out after 8 years.

Can't find the tweet but it was just mentioned on the team 1040.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:57 PM

There is also a tweet that both sides agree to a 10 year CBA with a mutual out after 8 years.

Can't find the tweet but it was just mentioned on the team 1040.


It's on the last page.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:58 PM

So the owner have agreed to 65 mil
and the players to 64.3

That mediator rocks
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:59 PM

all these tweets are moving me from my pessimistic view on the lockout i have been way to optimistic with most of the stuff that comes from these new developments but this time it really does seem close im sure both the owners and players are facing the same pressure in having a 2nd lockout and being a joke around the sports world
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:00 PM

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Sources on both sides see Monday as likely date when all is settled. But could be late Sunday, as well
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:02 PM

About pensions - they're already done
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:02 PM

So the owner have agreed to 65 mil
and the players to 64.3

That mediator rocks


Maybe Beckenbaugh should present the Cup instead of Bettman.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:03 PM

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:06 PM


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Cap # for 2013-14 season closing in. Confirmed #NHL offer up to 62.5M. Some suggest #NHLPA might settle at 64.3M which is last yrs Cap hit

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:07 PM

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:08 PM

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:09 PM

Anyone wondering why all of these details are flowing out so freely now?

Is this a good thing?
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:09 PM

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Cap # for 2013-14 season closing in. Confirmed #NHL offer up to 62.5M. Some suggest #NHLPA might settle at 64.3M which is last yrs Cap hit


Wow, the NHL and PA are $1.8M apart on the cap next year. Can't see them cancelling the season over this.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:10 PM

i hope its a good thing as long is it doesn't blow up in everyone's face like last time
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:12 PM

Maybe Beckenbaugh should present the Cup instead of Bettman.


I think we should award him the Hart Trophy if there is a season.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:13 PM

Anyone wondering why all of these details are flowing out so freely now?

Is this a good thing?


Probably not.

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Agent: "Ways to go. League leaking info to up pressure on players."


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:13 PM


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Work left 2 get #CBA done include, variance on contracts, term of deals, walkaway arb, pension, buyouts, all issues need to still b resolved

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:21 PM

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:24 PM

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Work left 2 get #CBA done include, variance on contracts, term of deals, walkaway arb, pension, buyouts, all issues need to still b resolved


I thought the pension issue was settled? That's not good.

Also didn't the NHL offer 30% variance on contracts? The NHLPA wants more?

And I'm guessing the NHLPA isn't happy with teams having two buyouts. Alot of veteran players are gonna be forced out of the NHL.

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