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#6121 -Vintage Canuck-

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:58 PM

@SunGarrioch: Thirteen hours of CBA negotiations now. #NHL #NHLPA
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:13 AM

Do you know what the funny part is? I've been waiting for so long to have NHL hockey back and was finally coming to a realization it might not this season, so I bought tickets the Wolves game in Abbotsford next week and now at least 3 and possibly up to 5 or 6 of the Canucks players/prospects will likely not be playing if this gets settled. And, to be honest, I'm a little disappointed in that.

Well, worst case scenario is I get to watch more of Archibald, Rodin, Andersson, Friesen, Mallett (if he gets called back up), etc. if we do lose Tanev, Ebbett, Kassian and maybe Schroeder and Connauton (plus maybe another depth D or goalie?) to the training camp and start of the season.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:23 AM

I wouldn't do that deal.

Ballard > Jovo
Lu > Bjugstad
Schroeder < Upshall

I understand it would take a nice deal to pry Bjugstad but it isn't worth it if this is the deal, Ballard is a much better option than Jovo, Upshall isn't really a need, we have a # of players like him and I don't wanna give up Schroeder not sure why everyone is jumping ship on him, just gotta be patient and he will be a good player.

Not sold on Bjugstad enough to take on all those other negatives in the deal.


Ummm... please read the post.

Eg. (and this is just to illustrate how huge that clause could be... not really the value going either way)


(P.S. You are wrong on all of your assessments on top of that, especially since you entirely missed the main point of the thread. Jovo at a $2 million cap hit is worth a lot more than Ballard at $4.2)
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:28 AM

TSN doing live updates at 2am. Finally feels like the pacific time zone getting some love.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:43 AM

I hope they stay up all night till they get this over with, tommorow should be an intresting day. ::D
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:16 AM

My Rangers buddies have been stalking 2 of the players hotels where they have been meeting. They have seen Campoli on his phone twice outside for short calls (less than 4 minutes). Apparently there was food brought up within the last hour... I hope they get this done. Some of the ex-NHLers have said a deal is already in place and that lawyers are reviewing and making 'corrections'.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:16 AM

Ummm... please read the post.


I understand that it was an example, but I wanted to give feedback on your example.

Also (just to get back to that since it was your main point before I skipped straight to the example) well it maybe a possibilty at this stage if it hasn't been added in or highly talked about/considered by both sides I don't think it is likely to be something we will see in the CBA, obviously the deal isn't done yet so anything could happen but it hasn't been mentioned really as something that has been introduced to the process, and if it was we would hear about it cause that is a huge thing, so since we are so close to the deal I don't it will be added into the CBA honestly.

It would be nice as it could open up more possibilites but still I think it is doubtful.

(P.S. You are wrong on all of your assessments on top of that, especially since you entirely missed the main point of the thread. Jovo at a $2 million cap hit is worth a lot more than Ballard at $4.2)


Not to turn this into a pissing match but actually you are wrong.

Jovanovski's cap hit is 4.125 and that's a 35+ contract with 3 more years on it. Which is much more risky then Ballard at 4.2 for 3 more years.

Then on the ice I think Ballard is the better player and would bring more also due to his chemistry with Tanev.

Once again, Ballard > Jovo. And I stand by what I said about the other players in the deal aswell.

(And Jovo was my favorite player when he is here & I have tried to keep tabs on his career since he left, so I'm not being biased)
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:17 AM

"TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger adds that each side is trying to hammer through as much as possible over Saturday night before tackling 'main contentious items' on Sunday."

On the main page of TSN.

That's the thing that seems a bit worrying because I think Bob Mckenzie put it best: Until whole deal is done, none of it is done.

Edited by forever_hope, 06 January 2013 - 01:18 AM.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:38 AM

Darren Dreger regarding a new CBA getting done tonight: "At this point, anything is possible."

14 freakin' hours! Wow.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:45 AM

Good thing we're in the West, I have no problem staying up as long as these guys continue working hehe
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:48 AM

Deal has to be done. There is no reason to be up at 4AM unless things were this close.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:49 AM

Quick lock them in and don't let em out until they give us a new CBA.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:49 AM

Darren Dreger regarding a new CBA getting done tonight: "At this point, anything is possible."

14 freakin' hours! Wow.


I don't care, its about time they pay for all that lost time.

Keep them in there for 24 Hours, heck keep them in there for 48 hours! I don't care I just want my hockey back and this embaressing fiasco to end :towel:


(Don't worry, I am somewhat humian, I do realize they need food/water & to leave now and then for bathroom breaks :P )

Edited by Smashian Kassian, 06 January 2013 - 01:50 AM.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:53 AM

It's official CBA Negotiations > Golf. :bigblush:
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:53 AM

I expect the worst and hope for the best....That's all I can do........
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:02 AM

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:17 AM

@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Via email, update from NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly: "Making progress."

@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Source says both sides "working hard trying to reach agreement on the outstanding issues."
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:18 AM

@DarrenDreger
Latest intel from Manhattan-Marathon-Madness...the two sides intend on pushing until no more can be accomplished tonight\this morning.

Could this finally be it...
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:31 AM

@SunGarrioch: It's 4:30 am and both sides are still trying to get to the finish line. #NHL #NHLPA
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:33 AM

Darren Dreger live on TSN: "Cautiously optimistic has turned into real close. We're talking about hours (before a deal gets done) not days."
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:41 AM

Welp, soon we can go back to the Luongo trade watch.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:46 AM

"TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger adds that each side is trying to hammer through as much as possible over Saturday night before tackling 'main contentious items' on Sunday."

On the main page of TSN.

That's the thing that seems a bit worrying because I think Bob Mckenzie put it best: Until whole deal is done, none of it is done.


So they've been talking all this time and they're not even talking about the main issues?
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:47 AM

I'm starting to think maybe it will get done today!

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:57 AM

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Nothing but positive vibes is what @aaronward_nhl and I are getting from sources here at NHLPA hotel. Still work to be done though...


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:58 AM

You gotta give props to the insiders providing updates lol, its almost 5AM there :shock:
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 03:02 AM

You gotta give props to the insiders providing updates lol, its almost 5AM there :shock:


If I had an excuse to be up at 5am I would too

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 03:02 AM

Darren Dreger live on TSN: "Cautiously optimistic has turned into real close. We're talking about hours (before a deal gets done) not days."


Gave me a huge smile. ::D

The thought of actually, maybe, realistically, seeing hockey once again being a possibility is such a great feeling. I will finally get to see Kassian and Schroeder in Blue, Green and White like I have been so anxiously waiting for a long time.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 03:04 AM

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Told deal is "real close" - source
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 03:04 AM


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Told deal is "real close" - source


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 03:04 AM

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Told deal is "real close" - source

holy f#@!#$!in SH@!#!@

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