d.joh91 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 does anyone know if Sportsnet will be broadcasting Swedish Elite League games this coming season like they did during the '04-'05 Lockout? I know that NHL players are not allowed to play overseas unless they've already signed a 1-year contract, but I'd still enjoy watching SEL games regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxiebrown Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 The NHLPA claims the game is going to grow 7% a year for next few years. If they were to drop to a 50/50 split then in 2 years according to their numbers the are going to be at the rate they are at right now. If they miss 16 games this years they lose 20% instead of the 7% and then it will take them 3 years just to break even. What happens when the CDN dollar drops, what happens when oil goes though the ceiling, the players don't have to worry about that because they have guarenteed contracts. Revenue - expenses=profit Sure the league made 3.3B take out 1.87B for player salaries, 1.43 B is left to cover water, gas, hydro,heat, arena staff, equipment, flights, hotels, concessions and the list goes on and on. Yes I understand teams also get merch money, concession money, TV money and I'm sure there is a lot more. Out of that 1.43B that averges out to 47M a team and there is no way every team is profitable. The players are telling the owners to revenue share, why don't the players kick in an equal amount then to help revenue share. The league has been paying PHX bills for some time now and not to many people are stepping up to buy the team. If a team clears 6M a year how much are they suppose to give to other teams? Are the owners not allowed to make a profit or are they just suppost to break even. The players have no expenses except for paying their agents. One thing for sure is every single player in the league makes a profit, same can't be said for the owners yet they still put a team on the ice knowing that they are going to lose money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 Canucks Sports & Entertainment statement regarding CBA: Vancouver, B.C. – As you are aware the NHL and NHLPA were unable to agree on a successor Collective Bargaining Agreement before September 15th. The Vancouver Canucks remain hopeful that a new Collective Bargaining Agreement will be reached as soon as possible. In the interim, we will continue to focus the efforts and talent of our entire staff and coaches on the values of grassroots hockey in British Columbia. We also will continue with our ongoing community initiatives, including children’s health and wellness through Canucks Autism Network, Canuck Place Children’s Hospice and BC Children’s Hospital -- as well as the support of literacy at the Canucks Family Education Centre. As always, we appreciate your patience and loyalty. We want to say again how much we appreciate your support and passion for your Canucks. We look forward to returning to the ice at Rogers Arena as soon as possible. Our staff and coaches have worked hard over the summer months to make sure we will be ready to play at a moment’s notice. http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=641585 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxiebrown Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 About 1/3 of the teams lose money, and about 1/3 break even. Being an owner isnt all fun and games. It's not really bout greed considering 2/3s of the league hardly make any money. The NHLPA should help support the NHL in growing the game and taking a bit of a cut. Growing the game creates MORE jobs for the PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bill Sikes Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Surely if Leopold said, hey Ryan and Zach, will you come play for us, we will give you a 10 year contract for $30m each, average $3M a year they would have jumped all over it and signed for that right? Players are far more greedy then the owners. Players generally go to the highest bidder. Owners have to keep 23 players under a cap, where players can make as much as they want a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 About 1/3 of the teams lose money, and about 1/3 break even. Being an owner isnt all fun and games. It's not really bout greed considering 2/3s of the league hardly make any money. The NHLPA should help support the NHL in growing the game and taking a bit of a cut. Growing the game creates MORE jobs for the PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 Pretty powerful video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 The owners aren't interested in growing the game, most of the recent expansions were about reloading their war chest with expansion fee's that they don't have to share with the players. Just like the "relocation fee" for moving the Thrashers, what was the fee for moving the Jets and Nordiques? $0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 The Canadian owners in the NHL, I'm sure to a man are totally *issed with this lockout. They get face value for their ticket prices, usually sell their buildings out, and have a fan base that gives a damn about the game. Bettmans foray into those Southern markets have done nothing as far as growing the game is concerned. How many prospective owners have stepped up to the plate in Phoenix now? Is this deal done? If all this lockout is about is protecting these owners from themselves, then folks, guess what? In 5 or 6 or 10 years from now, Gary Bettman will make a case for another lockout, because this business method is NOT working? Revenues mean Zero, if 18 teams are losing money, and give tickets away for the sake of growing the game in places like, Phoenix, Columbus, Anaheim, Florida, and Tampa Bay. Everyone is saying how successful San Jose is, well apparently they lost money last season. Sellouts, smell outs, if this is growing the game, Bettman you need to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 NHL complaints department: look up hockeyyinsiderr ... Apparently posted buttmans email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drybone Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 About 1/3 of the teams lose money, and about 1/3 break even. Being an owner isnt all fun and games. It's not really bout greed considering 2/3s of the league hardly make any money. The NHLPA should help support the NHL in growing the game and taking a bit of a cut. Growing the game creates MORE jobs for the PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Except they got this new guy at the helm of the NHLPA who has a huge reputation to protect. I hope he can put it aside and offer the owners at least 50% of their own revenue. There is no way the players should be making more than the people they work for. Its ridiculous . If they want more, they should start up their own WHA and run the team themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Except they got this new guy at the helm of the NHLPA who has a huge reputation to protect. I hope he can put it aside and offer the owners at least 50% of their own revenue. There is no way the players should be making more than the people they work for. Its ridiculous . If they want more, they should start up their own WHA and run the team themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJamIam Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Except that they know they'll make that all back and more if they choose to sell the team. Also, a ten million annual operating loss is a drop in the frigging bucket for most of these owners. And that's the price they pay for having a shiny toy to play with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islandboss Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 So leading up to this point in time.Previously during the free agent frenzy this summer,owners signed players to some unreal contracts.Probably thinking that they were gonna play hardball and would roll back the players percentage so they would never have to pay the complete wage they negotiated under the old CBA.The Wild took that route. The owners knew when they offered those contracts what Gary weasel was gonna bring to the table as demands.They players of course would have had no Knowledge of those demands.Wonder what those fella's think of the wild organization now and would you call that negotiating in bad faith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 This is an old, but very applicable video. It's also hilarious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLO2I5fHImI&feature=player_embedded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Rick mercer should do an update in this NHL neogitating has 22 seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 So leading up to this point in time.Previously during the free agent frenzy this summer,owners signed players to some unreal contracts.Probably thinking that they were gonna play hardball and would roll back the players percentage so they would never have to pay the complete wage they negotiated under the old CBA.The Wild took that route. The owners knew when they offered those contracts what Gary weasel was gonna bring to the table as demands.They players of course would have had no Knowledge of those demands.Wonder what those fella's think of the wild organization now and would you call that negotiating in bad faith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Blaming this Lock out on the Wild. Parise and Suter contracts were just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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