SamJamIam Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Sorry I didn't realize that some citizens, as measured by their bank accounts, are responsible for providing discounted entertainment for other citizens in Vancouver. By the way I don't think Inginla shared his Bank of Nova Scotia advertising commission with the Flamers. After all it was the NHL and the Flamers that provided the venue for his notoriety. You can get upset about all those owners who making nothing but money but be more constructive. Send an email to the NHLPA and suggest they start another league for their players. Obviously there is nothing but money to be made. Let'em go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Dan Russell just had a local media guy ,Ian McIntyre? and he says that if the league took the players first offer and revenues grew at the same rate for 2 years then the players share would be 50 % anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Quality post. I don't know much about this stuff, but this sounds like it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Lp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksnihilist Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Ok, I've heard lots of people on the radio, including Ray Ferraro talk about how they cannot understand the owners going on a big spending spree. And there is an article in the paper about how the Canuck players don't understand the hypocrisy of desperately wanting to sign players under the old CBA if it didn't work. I mean, if it didn't work, why desperately sign the players. The answer is simple: All the players signed are in the last year of their contracts coming up, and would be free agents July 1st. The owners and management are betting there will be no hockey this year at all, so they want to sign the players before they become free agents and lose them for nothing. They are just managing risk, it is totally understandable. But if they think the risk of losing the season is big enough that they want to sign players under a CBA that doesn't work for them and they don't like, that doesn't bode well for hockey this year at all... If Betman was the obstacle last time, he will be the same this time around... I'm sure lots of people get this already, but why is the media so mind numbingly stupid sometimes? Or do they just not want to suggest that there will be NO hockey this year at all? Even when logic is suggesting it quite plainly to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drive-By Body Pierce Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 @walsha NHL revenue growth at 7.1% annually since 2005. Bettman salary up from $2.5M to $8M all in these "tough economic times." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I thought that in a lockout, players don't lose a year off their contracts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Bo7 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 @walsha NHL revenue growth at 7.1% annually since 2005. Bettman salary up from $2.5M to $8M all in these "tough economic times." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Bo7 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I thought that in a lockout, players don't lose a year off their contracts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 There used to be a thing called bargaining in good faith. The League refuses to use this form of bargaining. Their tactics seem like extortion. If they insist on a salary roll-back, then all those juicy contracts they gave out were done so in bad faith. They had no intention of paying the players the salaries which both parties agreed to. I hope we don't lose an entire season because of poor management and worse marketing on the part of the loser owners who need propping up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niklas Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Last page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I thought that in a lockout, players don't lose a year off their contracts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbal23 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Sorry I didn't realize that some citizens, as measured by their bank accounts, are responsible for providing discounted entertainment for other citizens in Vancouver. By the way I don't think Inginla shared his Bank of Nova Scotia advertising commission with the Flamers. After all it was the NHL and the Flamers that provided the venue for his notoriety. You can get upset about all those owners who making nothing but money but be more constructive. Send an email to the NHLPA and suggest they start another league for their players. Obviously there is nothing but money to be made. Let'em go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I am confused by what you mean. Are you suggesting that if the full season is lost then they won`t lose a year? Because in 04-05, they did lose a year on the contracts; but that what was agreed upon, which means that they could agree either way for this round IF a full season is lost. If the lock-out is only a half season - then still a year would be deducted from their contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mase_Raymond_21 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Since the NHL locked out, there could be a possibility of the nhl comming back. Even though this won't happen i will still throw it out there. The Nhl should have the playoffs start in febuary with all the teams and all the bad teams go up against each other and all the good teams up against each other. so it would look like this... [NOTE] divisions don't matter COLUMBUS VS NY ISLANDERS L.A. vs NY RANGERS VANCOUVER VS BOSTON OTTAWA VS PHOENIX MONTREAL VS TORONTO SAN JOSE VS ST LOUIS EDMONTON VS FLORIDA NEW JERSEY VS WINNIPEG MINNESOTA VS BUFFALO NASHVILLE VS PITTSBURGH TAMPA BAY VS COLORADO CAROLINA VS CALAGARY DETROIT VS PHILLY DALLAS VS ANAHEIM CHICAGO VS BUFFALO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 This is something I've been thinking about too. But instead of a bad team vs bad team and a good team vs good team set up, how about a 28 team playoff? Disperse Phoenix and the NY Islanders and have a dispersal draft before, or after the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksFanMike Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 This is something I've been thinking about too. But instead of a bad team vs bad team and a good team vs good team set up, how about a 28 team playoff? Disperse Phoenix and the NY Islanders and have a dispersal draft before, or after the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Why should a bad team advance farther than a good team? That hardly seems fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonfruits Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 loving this from selanne • Teemu Selanne put Gary Bettman on blast in his Finnish language blog: “Gary Bettman has been the boss of the NHL for almost 20 years. He was hired to bring the salary cap and that is what he also did. 2 times there has been a threat of lockout during his reign and in both cases there has also been a lockout. So this is the third! He must be the most hated person in NHL. In every NHL arena he gets booed. The fans know! He makes over $ 8 million in a year. Would Mr Bettman be willing to give up his salary, and give a part of to these ‘poor’ teams? Hmm… interesting question.” http://nhl-northeast.com/torontomapleleafs/selanne-blasts-bettman-nhl-players-head-to-europe-trevor-gillies-khl-fight-puck-headlines-puck-daddy/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromeslab Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I hate you Bettman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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