Guest Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Pretty exciting news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Alexander Cody Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 No phase in? And please accept this. Hockey markets are starving for more hockey and this is the year for many teams to win the Cup, like the Canucks, Rangers, Sharks, etc. Many teams need these next few years to see if they can win the Cup and having an entire season lockout will kill these teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I agree, I'd be content with a 70 game season (give or take a few games). I wonder what the lenght of the new CBA will be? I'm just curious when the next lockout will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckinEdm Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Players salaries are protected in 2012-2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxiebrown Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Exactly. That's what's worrying me. The NHL may have made a "50/50" offer because they know (from their focus group research) that that sounds fair to most fans, but if they also redefined HRR it could actually mean players are getting much, much less. Frankly, it could be that the NHL is banking on the ignorance of most fans when it comes to HRR, thinking that we will hear that they offered a 50/50 split (which the educated fan knows includes deductions for many costs BEFORE the players' share is determined so in reality players would actually get less than 50% even without a redefinition of HRR) and think players would just be greedy to reject it when in reality the offer redefined HRR to the point that players get closer to 40%. I hope that's not the case, but given the fact that they hired a propaganda specialist to do research in how to sell this lockout to the fans, it's hard to take them at face value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 So then there is a rollback the next year.... There is no way they take that deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prngr44 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Free agency extended to 28 yrs or 8 years instead of 27/7. Contract max is 5 years Revenue sharing increased to 200M. If there aren't any rollbacks, teams will be wheeling and dealing to get under the cap. *** I fully expect the NHLPA to counter on contract max. I'm assuming existing contracts are grandfathered in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckinEdm Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I think it will come down to something like this if a player was making $5,000,000 cap hit on a 5 year contract for that entire contract he is payed what he is owed.but in the terms of the cap he is making $5,000,000 - 7% = $4,650,000 so there wont need to be buyouts and such. eventually the only contract that will be left is Dipietro haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I'd be worried about this too, except that Fehr (who presumably knows more about the deal than the 50/50 split) called it an "excellent start." If there were any HRR shenanigans going on, Fehr would have hammered the deal right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kane Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Free agency extended to 28 yrs or 8 years instead of 27/7. Contract max is 5 years Revenue sharing increased to 200M. If there aren't any rollbacks, teams will be wheeling and dealing to get under the cap. *** I fully expect the NHLPA to counter on contract max. I'm assuming existing contracts are grandfathered in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 $3.3 Bil x 50% / 30 teams = $55 mil salary cap. A reduction of $9 mil per team. That's IF revenue starts at $3.3 which it may very well not be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmen81 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I realize that the PA won't accept this deal as is(mainly on contract lengths), but I think negotiations will start getting serious and they need to be meeting everyday for 12-18 hours for the next few days and try and work out a deal ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remy Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 LP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxiebrown Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 5 year max contracts is interesting because it effects certain members of the NHLPA way more than others. Star players - especially those still on ELCs - would have to be pretty choked by that, but the vast majority of the PA will never see a contract longer than 3-4 years anyways. Will be interesting to see how hard the PA fights that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyville88 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Please please please PA. Please accept the offer and end this madness. We need hockey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai604 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 At the very least, even if it's not the proposal that both sides will agree on, at least the NHL is really trying to bargain in good faith now. I see this 50/50 offer as a HUGE move by the NHL, regardless of whether or not HRR is being redefined or not. Remember guys, that they wanted 57% for the owners AND to redefine HRR. That they have finally tabled a proposal offering a fair 50/50 split down the middle (irrespective of the new HRR definitions) we should all see this as a giant step towards making a deal. They will surely spend some time tweaking this proposal, and revisiting the 82-game compact schedule idea, but in the end, I think it's safe to say that today's proposal will later be talked about as the first big stepping stone in the discussions up to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I'd be worried about this too, except that Fehr (who presumably knows more about the deal than the 50/50 split) called it an "excellent start." If there were any HRR shenanigans going on, Fehr would have hammered the deal right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitecarnage Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 60 - 64 games will do just fine. 82-game season is way too long and irksome even for the normal schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Doctor Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Optimistic fan here thinks a deal will be done by Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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