You know, the funny thing about your pro-owner stance is that when actually pressed on what you think the PA should offer, you're clearly on their side as far as what you think is reasonable. I agree; the PA should either allow their share to drop down to 50% as soon as is possible while honouring contracts, or they should give up max contract lengths and time until free agency. Either or is perfectly reasonable (although I suspect the PA will choose a loss of HRR share every time, rather than member rights). But the owners are asking for both. 50/50 plus "make whole" which actually means less than 50% for players and slashed member rights. What you just described is actually more pro-players than the PA's stance has been for months. They are willing to take a pay cut and their only demand is that revenue sharing increase so the teams don't feel the need to screw players over next CBA and so PA members won't lose jobs through teams shutting down. That deal would mean more money to the owners than even you suggested. I think you should read my post above.
Then I am now in disagreement with the owner. I still stand behind the fact the owners have all the power. Its just a fact. Doesnt mean I want the players to fail. Far from it.
I want there to be an agreement. Keeping the cap the same and just waiting until it is 50% is just another way of saying 50% in three years with normal revenue increases.
I have been writing this ever since this thread opened. It made the most common sense. The owners KNOW they have all the power..........which is again what I have stated all along, and thats why they are pressing for UNREASONABLE demands.
The owners know they can and there is nothing that Fehr can do about it.
And again, the players bring in a hired gun from the outside (baseball) and think this guy is going to push around the owners has done nothing but PISS the owners off.
I have started a small business from scratch. Those who have know exactly about all the blood sweat and tears it requires. Day after day, week after week. Year after year.
We tend to get royally PISSED off when some guy comes in from the outside to tell us how to run our own business we have been running for about 100 years.
I think when we sit back and see this from this perspective, we can see the owners are at this point willing to either get a lopsided deal or screw the players even more. They are royally pissed off . I dont think the average fan understands this. The owners who dont make any money are losing nothing, and the block of owners who are losing money by the lock out have so much they are prepared to wait .
The union bringing Fehr into the picture was a gamble that looked good on paper but did not pan out well at all in practice. Fehr is now backed into this..........lets bring our complaining into the media to get the fans against the owners.............routine.
Now the players are at a stage where they are prepared to be fair. I think with a few more concessions about free agency and waiver and contract length the NHLPA offer is fair.
They should have made this offer 3 months ago instead of bringing on a hired gun.
Fehr was brought on at the end of 2010 not three months ago. I did not articulate that properly.
Regardless, the time for the union to be 'fair' was 3 months ago, not after all this revenue has been lost already .
Edited by Drybone, 11 November 2012 - 06:33 PM.