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Poll: Poll Regarding Player Rental Trades (16 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you want to allow trades for renting players?

  1. Yes. (5 votes [31.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.25%

  2. No. (11 votes [68.75%])

    Percentage of vote: 68.75%

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#1051 mpt

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 02:02 PM

There should be a poll like for the waiver rule so votes are private


We could also just talk about it too. I for one don't care either way. If people want the rule I say we make the rule. In the past I've been involved in a few rental trades. I've found from talking to GMs most aren't interested in rentals anyways.

We could make a rule that rentals can only happen with players with one year left
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 02:08 PM

We could also just talk about it too. I for one don't care either way. If people want the rule I say we make the rule. In the past I've been involved in a few rental trades. I've found from talking to GMs most aren't interested in rentals anyways.

We could make a rule that rentals can only happen with players with one year left


I call dibs on Karlsson for next season
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 02:49 PM

I added a poll regarding player rentals.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 02:54 PM

Okay I will break my vow of silence to just get some clarification. When I think of rental, I think of a player on the last year of his contract being traded to a playoff contender. I'm okay with that, but are we talking about rental as the literal meaning where a team borrows a player but then gives him back at the end of the season? Cause that seems kind of fishy since non playoff teams can form alliances with playoff teams which I'm not ok with it.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:09 PM

UFA at end of season is fine, IMO. Those guys are the textbook definition of a rental player.

But if the guy has multiple years left or is a pending RFA, I'm not okay with that. It basically creates a situation where you can stack your team at 1/4 of the cap hit for several guys and then not have to deal w/ the cap issues during the re-sign period.

Edited by n00bxQb, 14 November 2012 - 03:10 PM.

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#1056 DollarAndADream

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:11 PM

I've had a ton of injuries to my main players and never considered trading for a rental. Every one of my top 6 has been out this year for at least 15-20 games besides Travis Zajac.

That's just me though.

I guess if people are fine with giving up prospects and picks to have a player for a few months, then that's up to them. I'm not against that.


I do think if we allow it, that it should be for players on their last year.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:45 PM

This has happened quiet a few times in the past, and imo shouldn't be allowed. No GM in real life would trade a player as a rental, to help a team make it into the playoffs or help them make a run for the Cup, and then trade them back.



More than half the league has DNF%, even the commissioner.


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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:06 PM

Ryan Ellis out 40 games :sadno: he was leading the league in defense man scoring.

This is a huge blow to our team and could effect playoff run drastically. At least we have a ton of defensive depth to somewhat ease this injury.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:13 PM

I stand on the same ground as 604
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:43 PM

I stand on the same ground as 604


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Posted 14 November 2012 - 08:45 PM

I'll also officially announce that vv2 has been hired as GM of the Posted ImageSan Jose Sharks.


The Winnipeg Jets organization would like to welcome the new Sharks GM to the league!
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#1062 Durl Dixsun

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:39 PM

Probably not going to make the playoffs (38-35-5)

Looking to upgrade goaltending and acquire a top pairing LD

OTB:
Jamie McBain(86)
Jason Demers(85)
Jonathan Bernier(83)
My first round pick this year

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:57 AM

Probably not going to make the playoffs (38-35-5)

Looking to upgrade goaltending and acquire a top pairing LD

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Jamie McBain(86)
Jason Demers(85)
Jonathan Bernier(83)
My first round pick this year


The trade deadline was yesterday. You're a little too late to the party.
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#1064 mpt

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:58 AM

The Washington Capitals would like to welcome the SJS back to our league. We hope you can rebuild and become a contender.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 01:08 AM

@TSNDaveHodge What has Ovechkin been eating? The kid's on fire with 18 points in his last 10 games, looks like the top line has finally awoken in Washington; Capitals' fans have been waiting 2 years for this. Will that momentum be enough to earn them a playoff spot?

@TSNBobMacKenzie The Washington Capitals are the hottest team in the league right now winning 5 in a row and 8-1-1 in their last 10. Have they peaked to early? Will their big guns continue to produce? Only time will tell.

@TSNPierreMcGuire Ovechkin's a MONSTTTEERRRR!!!!

@TSNDarrenDreger The Washington have flown out of no where down the stretch moving from 10th in to that final spot. Will Panthers and Islanders make a strong push? The Islanders are 3 points out with one game in hand; Florida is nipping at their toes with only 1 point behind.

@TSNJamesDuthie If the Capitals do make the playoffs, other teams will need to watch out.

@MikeMilbury blah blah blah Bruins... blah blah blah

Edited by mpt, 15 November 2012 - 01:11 AM.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 01:24 AM

The Washington Capitals would like to welcome the SJS back to our league. We hope you can rebuild and become a contender.

Thanks and it won't be easy
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:56 AM

Clearly this Mike Smith didn't show up most of the season. He's stoning my team left right and center right now :( 0-0 halfway through the 2nd. NSH win would result in clinching a playoff spot.

And with a 2-1 victory over the Detroit Red Wings, the Nashville Predators officially clinch a playoff spot in the 2016 NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs.

Edited by n00bxQb, 15 November 2012 - 03:14 AM.

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#1068 DollarAndADream

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:29 AM

Season is over.

Standings:
1. Edmonton 108
2. Anaheim 106
3. St Louis 101
4. Dallas 105
5. Colorado 102
6. Calgary 100
7. Columbus 99
8. Nashville 97
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9. Chicago 87
10. Detroit 85
11. Vancouver 82
12. Phoenix 81
13. San Jose 78
14. Minnesota 67
15. Los Angeles 66



Eastern:
1. Carolina 110
2. Pittsburgh 98
3. Boston 97
4. Buffalo 96
5. Montreal 96
6. Washington 95
7. Winnipeg 95
8. New York Rangers 90
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9. New York Islanders 88
10. Florida 87
11. Ottawa 84
12. New Jersey 81
13. Philadelphia 80
14. Tampa Bay 71
15. Toronto 63



Point Leaders:
1. Gustav Nyquist 88p
2. Michael Grabner 80p
3. Patrick Kane 79p
4. Nathan Gerbe 79p
5. Jordan Eberle 77p


Goal Leaders:
1. Jordan Eberle 40g
2. Michael Grabner 37g
3. Alex Ovechkin 36g
4. Taylor Hall 35g
5. Phil Kessel 33g

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:46 AM

Playoffs Round 1:

Western Conference:

1 EDM VS 8 NSH
2 ANA VS 7 CBJ
3 STL VS 6 CGY
4 DAL VS 5 COL


Eastern Conference:

1 CAR VS 8 NYR
2 PIT VS 7 WPG
3 BOS VS 7 WSH
4 BUF VS 5 MTL
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:22 AM

Hey CBJ's GM, if you read this message, feel free to PM me so we could watch our series. I'm pretty much available the entire day, today.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:06 AM

Disappinted with how the Flyers performed this season, Expect a bit of a shakeup.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:03 AM

Schroeder out for the playoffs
Garrison out for the playoffs
Miller out for the first round
Quincey out for the first round
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:44 AM

I have 3 of my top 6 D hurt and a top 6 forward.

Alzner, Carlson, Orlov, Tanabe

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:57 AM

My first round pick (10th overall again -.-) OTB
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:22 AM

it looks like its gunna be a really weak draft this year
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:34 AM

Still looking to Swap Jamie McBain(86) or Jason Demers (85) for a Left handed top pair defenseman.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:26 PM

We are thinking about changing our UFA rules again because many of us feel that all the good UFAs will continue to be rentals year after year.

We've come up with a few ideas.

#1 the same team can't offer another one year deal to the same rental player (they may offer a multi year deal)
#2 no one year deals can be offered to anyone 82 and over, or 4 or more green/yellow stars
#3 no one year deals can be offered to anyone 82 and over, or 4 or more green/yellow stars that is under 35 (players 35+ can be offered 1 year deals)

Some teams are really just looking for a one year fix, but we also don't want to see all the good players being continuously offered one year deals over and over again.

What are your guys' thoughts? Should we make a change? Or should we try it again another year and see what happens this time around?

Edited by mpt, 15 November 2012 - 12:27 PM.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:49 PM

We are thinking about changing our UFA rules again because many of us feel that all the good UFAs will continue to be rentals year after year.

We've come up with a few ideas.

#1 the same team can't offer another one year deal to the same rental player (they may offer a multi year deal)
#2 no one year deals can be offered to anyone 82 and over, or 4 or more green/yellow stars
#3 no one year deals can be offered to anyone 82 and over, or 4 or more green/yellow stars that is under 35 (players 35+ can be offered 1 year deals)

Some teams are really just looking for a one year fix, but we also don't want to see all the good players being continuously offered one year deals over and over again.

What are your guys' thoughts? Should we make a change? Or should we try it again another year and see what happens this time around?


Wait another year i still gotta re sign Spezza and Green to 1 year deals :P
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:51 PM

Wait another year i still gotta re sign Spezza and Green to 1 year deals :P


Your vote doesn't count :)
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 01:09 PM

Eh, I think that one is a bit much. We have enough rules governing UFA, and we've already proven that a lot of names are going to make it to free agency. I'd be more concerned if, say, I was in a situation where I had 6m available, needed a top line winger to play with Toews and Ryan, but both of them were due for contracts at seasons end. My only option would be to either sign someone 35 and over, sign someone multi-year and possibly lose my stars, or go on without, and then you're just punishing someone for knowing their cap situation well enough to plan for it. I'm definitely against the gross overpayments to players, and I think the 1 year/82 OVR rule that we have in place is pretty solid and almost entirely covers what you're trying to defend against.

Additionally, one day I'll have a 33 year old Toews asking for a renewal. My concern when I was signing him was that I'd rather lose him than end up paying him 12m when he's a 35 year old 84. So, if Toews falls to an 84 at 33, and asks 7m, as his owner shouldn't I have the right to offer him a short term deal so I can manage his performance decline?

tl;dr: There's a lot of rules for UFA already, putting in rules to how we can re-sign our own players is too much. IMO.

ETA: If you want precedent, I'll refer you to Marian Hossa's 1 year shot with the Red Wings as proof that elite players would consider signing on for a single year for their own personal reasons.

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