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#1 Dirt Nasty

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 03:17 PM

These are some trades I've been thinking about that could benefit the Canucks.

First trade :
To TOR: Luongo, Raymond
To VAN: Grabovski, 2013 1st

Vancouver gets a top 6 forward who is still young and could put up 50+ points playing on the second line either center or wing, depending on injuries. Van also receives hopefully a high first round pick in a deep draft.

Toronto receives an elite goalie who will be able to help them get into the playoffs, and a 2nd/3rd line winger who may just need a change of scenery, but can still put up 30+ points while adding some speed and is smart defensively.

Second Trade:
To NYR: Dale Weise, 2nd 2013
To VAN: Brian Boyle, 4th 2013

Vancouver receives a big 3rd line center who will add some size and grit to the line up, he can also put up 30ish points, and a 4th round pick.

New York receives a solid 4th line player who is still young and can only get better, and a 2nd round pick in a deep draft.

To PHX: Aaron Volpatti, NYR's 4th 2013
To VAN: Raffi Torres

Vancouver gets Torres back, a solid 3rd/4th liner who adds lots of grit and character to the team.

Phoenix receives a decent 4th liner and a pick, plus after Torres big suspension I think Phoenix isnt to big on Raffi right now.

Line up after the trades with a healthy line up:

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Booth-Kesler-Grabovski
Torres-Boyle-Hansen
Malhotra-Lapierre-Kassian

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Edler-Garrison
Ballard-Tanev

Schneider
Lack

Edited by Dirt Nasty, 28 October 2012 - 04:17 PM.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 03:26 PM

where are the abs?

also, dan boyle plays for the SJS

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 03:38 PM

1. I guess I would do it. I wouldn't be all for it, but I do suppose we could do worse.
2. I assume you mean Brian Boyle. Would do it in a heartbeat, but couldn't see the Rags doing it.
3. We aren't going to trade for Raffi Torres. If we wanted him, we would have resigned him.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 03:45 PM

dan boyle plays for San Jose.... I think you mean Brian Boyle.

As for the three trades, I would do the NYR deal and maybe the TOR deal but definitely not the PHX deal
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 03:50 PM

didnt we claim weisse off o weaivers from the rangers???

if so i dont think they would be willing to give up boyle....to get back a player they were comfortable tisking going through waivers.
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 03:53 PM

The Leafs won't give us Grabovski and a 1st for Luongo and Raymond.

The Rangers won't give up {Brian} Boyle for so little return, he's a key component of their bottom 6.

If we wanted Torres, we would have just re-signed him.
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:07 PM

Why would the Rangers want Weise back if they waived him?
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:18 PM

My bad Brian Boyle haha dont know what I was thinking
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:22 PM

where are the abs?

also, dan boyle plays for the SJS

Totally forgot Higgins in the line up, Maybe leave out the torres trade then have higgins slotted in on the third, and switch Weise with Volpatti in the NYR trade, Take out the NYR 4th round pick on the return. Or Weise in the PHX deal for Torres

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:45 PM

1. I would do it forsure, but like every told me they probably won't trade Grabo.

2. They won't do it, they waived Weise and Boyle is too important to them.

3. No thanks, like everyone else said we could have just resigned hi, if were willing to give him that price.
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 10:15 PM

You had my curiosity when I saw a PHX proposal, but then I saw that it was for Torres...

We would have re-signed him if we wanted him, and why would we want a suspended player?
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 10:57 PM

Grabovski isn't going anywhere, regardless of how badly they need goaltending.

Luongo couldn't pry a big, young centerman out of Florida. How would Weise, a player they waived, pry a similar player out of New York?

I wouldn't mind the 3rd trade, but I can't see Phoenix taking a fringe 4th liner and a mid-round pick in return. I also don't think the Canucks want Torres back after he almost cost us the Chicago series in 2011.
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 11:00 PM

I wouldn't mind the 3rd trade, but I can't see Phoenix taking a fringe 4th liner and a mid-round pick in return. I also don't think the Canucks want Torres back after he almost cost us the Chicago series in 2011.

Uhh, how did Torres almost cost us the Chicago series?
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 04:19 AM

didnt we claim weisse off o weaivers from the rangers???

if so i dont think they would be willing to give up boyle....to get back a player they were comfortable tisking going through waivers.



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Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:05 AM

The Rangers were reluctant to put him on waivers though, but in the end they felt the other forwards were ahead of him and had no choice. Gillis had looked at moving for him prior to that iirc, so the Rangers lost him for nothing when they could have had a low pick or something for him instead.

It's not unreasonable they'd take him back in a deal, but not as a major piece in return for Brian Boyle.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 12:11 PM

If we could do that tor trade i would do it faster then u can think. The nyr one is good, id do it. And no to the phx trade
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 12:22 PM

The Rangers were reluctant to put him on waivers though, but in the end they felt the other forwards were ahead of him and had no choice. Gillis had looked at moving for him prior to that iirc, so the Rangers lost him for nothing when they could have had a low pick or something for him instead.

It's not unreasonable they'd take him back in a deal, but not as a major piece in return for Brian Boyle.

I think the major peice going back to NYR would be the 2nd round pick
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 12:34 PM

If Gaustad can get a 1st as a pending UFA, then there's no way the Rangers give up Boyle for a 2nd as the major piece. Weise certainly isn't worth more than a 4th round pick, so it's not like he adds significantly to the deal.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 12:42 PM

If Gaustad can get a 1st as a pending UFA, then there's no way the Rangers give up Boyle for a 2nd as the major piece. Weise certainly isn't worth more than a 4th round pick, so it's not like he adds significantly to the deal.

Fair enough, what do you think it would take to get Boyle? I think he'd be a perfect fit for our 3rd line center

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 12:44 PM

Fair enough, what do you think it would take to get Boyle? I think he'd be a perfect fit for our 3rd line center

There really isn't anything the Rangers need to improve on. Maybe a bottom six LW/RW and that's about it.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 12:50 PM

There really isn't anything the Rangers need to improve on. Maybe a bottom six LW/RW and that's about it.

Yeah I guess it would have to be an overpayment to pry him out of there, same as it would be with Hansen for Van.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:54 PM

That's pretty much it. Unless a contract gets in the way (as some think may happen with Edler) or he asks out (as has basicially happened with Luongo), I don't see a reason for the Rangers to move him. Offer a sweet enough deal and you might change their minds, but I doubt it'd be worth it.

Hansen is someone we have similar players to, but none are quite as good as he can be. He could be the sweetener in a deal with a big piece coming back to us, but for anyone to try and get him directly it'd likely be only for an overpayment.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:27 PM

remember, we acquired Wiese from the rangers off waivers. I'm not sure how valuable he would be in the eyes of Glen Sather.
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