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#31 GodzillaDeuce

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:44 PM

3) I want to dicuss standard cases e.g. going to the grocery store to buy animal meat for your BBQ and to a lesser extent, localally sourced animal meat.


are you trying to say I buy meat from a local ally (most of my allies are from zaire)

or at a local alley????

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:45 PM

Humans have always consumed meat. I see no problems whatsoever as far as others eating meat. I also see no problem with others avoiding meat in their diet. Live and let nom. There are places in the world where people would just like to eat at all, we can comfortably nitpick what to eat. I'd say we have it pretty good.

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#33 ronthecivil

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:52 PM

This is the second time in the past couple of weeks that someone's felt the need to post "non-human" in front of animals...

I'm seeing some cannibalistic traits in some posters.


My only ethic is to only eat vegitarian animals. (And that's because eating carnivores is dangerous from a pathogen standpoint).

No reason you couldn't eat vegetarians!
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:54 PM

Someone is taking or has taken Philosophy 101.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:56 PM

Someone is taking or has taken Philosophy 101.


Too bad they skipped science. My pointy front teeth are natures way of saying to go out and chomp on a wilder beast.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:58 PM

2) I am not absolutely against eating non-human animals i.e. there are contexts where killing and eating or eating a non-human animal are ethically justified


I was unaware that there's universal ethical standard they we are beholden to. Why should you be the arbitrator of what is ethical or not?
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:59 PM

My favourite part of the meat is the meat part of the meat.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:02 PM

my problem isn't with meat but rather the ways in which it is produced. i have a problem with animals being in tiny pens. then feeding them unnatural diets and pills(eg. Oradexon) to make them fatter. there is space available to keep these animals. they do not need chemicals which can transfer through the meat into humans.

that being said i'm too poor to buy my own meat as i am in school and living off my father. so who am i to crap on others for something i do nothing about myself.

also, manufacturing meat in a lab is just ripe for disaster.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:06 PM

are you trying to say I buy meat from a local ally (most of my allies are from zaire)

or at a local alley????

just don't get them here:
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:07 PM

My only ethic is to only eat vegitarian animals. (And that's because eating carnivores is dangerous from a pathogen standpoint).

No reason you couldn't eat vegetarians!

sooo, only feeder fish for you? and no crustaceans?
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:09 PM

sooo, only feeder fish for you? and no crustaceans?


Na, not too many cases of mad fish disease yet so it's still cool.

Not that I am a big lover of crustaceans anyways.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:10 PM

sooo, only feeder fish for you? and no crustaceans?


Plecostomus are delicious.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:15 PM

Plecostomus are delicious.

Metacarcinus magister is my favorite.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:16 PM

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:17 PM

Metacarcinus magister is my favorite.


Dungeness. Delicious scientific name, even more delicious flesh.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:17 PM

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:19 PM

Kill them and eat them. Life is cruel thank you and have a nice day :)
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:31 PM

My favourite part of the meat is the meat part of the meat.

My favorite part is the fatty meat attached to the tender meaty meat.


BTW...this thread started out sucking...gold after the first post however. Been done.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:34 PM

Because that is what they are, by definition. A dog, cat, cow, monkey is a non-human animal, and that is the subject matter I am referring to.



Who said I only take issue with eating non-human animals? How does that even follow? You've committed a non-sequitir and comitted a straw man in one sentence.



This is question begging, which is not a good form of reasoning.

You don't see why it's not necessary to say "non human animal"?
When you say you had sex, you don't need to say "I had consensual sex". It goes without saying.
People don't eat humans. No surprises there.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:37 PM

My favorite part is the fatty meat attached to the tender meaty meat.


BTW...this thread started out sucking...gold after the first post however. Been done.


Well done?
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:39 PM

my problem isn't with meat but rather the ways in which it is produced. i have a problem with animals being in tiny pens. then feeding them unnatural diets and pills(eg. Oradexon) to make them fatter. there is space available to keep these animals. they do not need chemicals which can transfer through the meat into humans.

that being said i'm too poor to buy my own meat as i am in school and living off my father. so who am i to crap on others for something i do nothing about myself.

also, manufacturing meat in a lab is just ripe for disaster.


Well that's on you and everybody else for deciding where to buy their meat from.I get my beef from a farm. I buy half a cow and a few weeks later pick it up from a butcher. In what turns out to be more than a years worth of beef in cuts I get to hand pick I pay between $500 and $600 including cut and wrap. I know the farmer and I've even helped out around his farm and know how well the animals are treated. Whatever meat I have left over goes to the local mission and my deep freeze gets a nice cleaning before I fill that sumbitch up with tasty tasty treats.

For the money I save it's well worth having to go to the butchers to pick up a year supply of meat that I got to hand pick. The higher quality and better taste are just a bonus.

Quick tip to save even more money. Don't look for organic beef. I could pay almost 25% more for my beef just because it's organic. Ask what they give the animals; if all they get are antibiotics and medicine when they need them it's just as good as organic.


Bottom line is if you don't like how some meat is handled (badumbum) don't stop eating meat because that won't solve the problem and then you'll be meatless. Would you become celibate because there are women in the world who get raped?

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:40 PM

Well done?

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:00 PM

Do a pack of lions think about the ethics of taking down and devouring a wildebeest?


It's probably free-range wildebeest. Not the stuff you get at the store.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:11 PM

we need to kill more animals for food. people are hungry
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:14 PM

Humans are omnivores, we eat meat, plant matter, anything to sustain ourselves. I'm the first to say the industrial methods of making food is probably enough to make you want to be a plant and just want sunshine and CO2.

We have lost the balance between nature and human society. We are overpopulated and depleting our natural resources far too quickly. We have to find better ways of sustainability and working with the environment instead of against it.

I'm human, I like meat. I also like fruits and vegetables. I'm not crazy about seafood (for exception of salmon..mmmm).

The phrase "It's all about balance" is true in more ways than one.

To give an example gorillas vary in their diets. Mountain gorillas who are hugely strong eat mostly foliage, bamboo, and a bit of fruit. Lowland Gorillas are more varied in their diets they eat foliage, but they also eat insects like ants.

Humans aren't like horses, or bovids where we would just graze instead of hunting/gathering.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:17 PM

What, did you just watch Food Inc.?
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:45 PM

We should only eat animals that have been hunted and killed by David Booth.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 05:16 PM

Is it not just how the food chain works though? It just so happens we're at the top of quite a few.

I mean, if birds eat fish, I doubt they give two f**ks about eating a fish alive. It's just life.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 05:18 PM

We should only eat animals that have been hunted and killed by David Booth.


That goat he bagged could feed a town for a week.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 05:30 PM

I love to eat "free range" animals of every sort .. it is crucially important that all animals have a sense of freedom right up til the hammer falls .. they taste so much better when raised in an atmosphere of "freedom" .. keep your oppressed and imprisoned hormone-induced super animals .. I want my meat "born-free" .. (hums the theme song to Born Free as I bite into this lovely stuffed slice of venison heart)
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