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#1 Grapefruits

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:10 PM

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Washington voters have overwhelmingly approved a measure to legalize, tax and regulate marijuana in the state.

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I-502 establishes a system of state-licensed marijuana growers, processors and retail stores, where adults over 21 can buy up to an ounce. It also would establish a standard blood test limit for driving under the influence.

Estimates have shown pot taxes could bring in hundreds of millions of dollars a year, but the sales wouldn't start until state officials make rules to govern the legal weed industry.

Recent public polling has showed significant support for the measure. Pot legalization initiatives were also on the ballot Tuesday in Colorado and Oregon. While the measure was running over 50 percent statewide, it was capturing 64 percent approval in King County.

Promoted by New Approach Washington, I-502 called for a 25 percent excise tax at each stage from the growers on until it is sold in stores to adults 21 and over. They could buy up to an ounce of dried marijuana; one pound of marijuana-infused product in solid form, such as brownies; or 72 ounces of marijuana-infused liquids.

The cannabis would be subject to testing to establish its THC content, and labeled accordingly. Public display or use of marijuana would still be prohibited.

State financial experts estimate it could raise nearly $2 billion in tax revenue over the next five years, with the money going toward education, health care, substance abuse prevention and basic government services.

It remained unclear how the federal government would respond.

When state and federal laws conflict, federal law takes precedence. Federal authorities could sue in an attempt to block I-502 from taking effect. The Justice Department has given no hints about its plans.

The campaign was notable for its sponsors and supporters, who ranged from public health experts to two of the DOJ's top former officials in Seattle, U.S. Attorneys John McKay and Kate Pflaumer.

The effort raised more than $6 million in contributions, with more than $2 million of that coming from Progressive Insurance Co. founder Peter Lewis, who used marijuana to treat pain from a leg amputation.

The ample fundraising allowed New Approach Washington to run television ads through the campaign's final weeks.

Meanwhile, I-502 had little organized opposition. Some in law enforcement and public health are concerned that increased access will lead to increased abuse, especially among teens.

Others who opposed the measure did so because it didn't go far enough, and that the blood test limits were arbitrary and could affect medical marijuana patients. Still others worried about a possible federal-state law clash.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:11 PM

Wonderful news .. maybe there is a chance for the USA after all ..
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:13 PM

Big fight to happen with the federal government, but hope it stays.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:15 PM

BC should definitely keep a close eye on how this works out for Washington. Lots of tax dollars to be made.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:21 PM

This is good news!!!
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:21 PM

75% of British Columbians would too, but democracy takes a holiday.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:25 PM

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as long as "Public display or use of marijuana would still be prohibited." is strongly enforced (unlike it is now) i would be totally fine with the extra tax dollars from legalization. sick and tired of vancouver smelling like a skunk rolled through it.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:26 PM

Finally.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:32 PM

as long as "Public display or use of marijuana would still be prohibited." is strongly enforced (unlike it is now) i would be totally fine with the extra tax dollars from legalization. sick and tired of vancouver smelling like a skunk rolled through it.


some damn fine skunk too ;)
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:35 PM

Congrats to Washington! Didn't Colorado legalize too? Wow
We'll see how the Federal Gov't handles this since both states voted for Obama.

What a historic night :)
Hopefully BC can follow
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:37 PM

Congrats to Washington (and Colorado). Let's see what the American federal government says about this.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:40 PM

Congrats to Washington! Didn't Colorado legalize too? Wow
We'll see how the Federal Gov't handles this since both states voted for Obama.

What a historic night :)
Hopefully BC can follow


Good luck in getting it past Herr Harper!
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:42 PM

some damn fine skunk too ;)


yes i must admit, if i was younger i would probably be right with you, unfortunately i have children now and one of them gets very sick around cigarette/marijuana smoke and poor air quality so my view is somewhat skewed now :P
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:45 PM

as long as "Public display or use of marijuana would still be prohibited." is strongly enforced (unlike it is now) i would be totally fine with the extra tax dollars from legalization. sick and tired of vancouver smelling like a skunk rolled through it.


Wouldn't it only be fair if laws regarding its use was made consistent with tobacco laws? AFAIK, it's not illegal to light up in public.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:50 PM

Wouldn't it only be fair if laws regarding its use was made consistent with tobacco laws? AFAIK, it's not illegal to light up in public.

I think they're aiming to make it similar to liquor laws. I don't really see that as unfair.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:01 PM

I think they're aiming to make it similar to liquor laws. I don't really see that as unfair.


You don't smoke liquor.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:05 PM

The US of A is coming a long way if this works out.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:11 PM

Washington and Colorado...BC can't be far behind.

Dominos falling :)
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:20 PM

Meanwhile in Arkansas they voted against medicinal marijuana.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:22 PM

You don't smoke liquor.


You drink it, like soda, water, etc.

Tobacco also doesn't alter your state of mind.

God damn you're saying some stupid stuff right about now.

About time it got legalized.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:26 PM

Right on.

That means we're next.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:30 PM

You drink it, like soda, water, etc.

Tobacco also doesn't alter your state of mind.


However, second hand marijuana smoke doesn't give you cancer.

Why should public display of marijuana use be illegal? To set an example to your children?

Edited by Buggernut, 06 November 2012 - 11:32 PM.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:31 PM

Next up: Crystal Meth.

'No wai.'

'Yeah? Well that's what they said about pot.'

When it comes to sin taxes, Where do you draw the line? Prostitution? Underground gambling including dog fights etc.? Happy pills? Crack cocaine? Whatever.

Certainly gangsters don't want to lose all these markets to the government, but if pot is legalized, where are these guys going to turn for their profits? Likely harder drugs. Like crystal meth.

In the end, it's a person's choice. You're probably not going to switch from weed to crystal meth. But your kids might be pushed into it a bit harder down the road. We'll see.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:33 PM

as long as "Public display or use of marijuana would still be prohibited." is strongly enforced (unlike it is now) i would be totally fine with the extra tax dollars from legalization. sick and tired of vancouver smelling like a skunk rolled through it.

That's my position as well. Fear of increased level of second hand smoke is my reservation for legalization. As long as they restrict its public use, I'm fine with it.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:36 PM

However, second hand marijuana smoke doesn't give you cancer.

Why should public display of marijuana use be illegal? To set an example to your children?

Wait, what? Inhaling any burning plant is going to increase cancer risk.

From the Canadian Cancer Society:

While recognizing that there are limitations to the current evidence, the Canadian Cancer Society believes there is enough research to suggest an increased risk of cancer associated with long-term smoking of marijuana and being exposed to second-hand marijuana smoke.
It is biologically possible for smoking marijuana to increase cancer risk since marijuana smoke contains as many as 50 of the same carcinogens as tobacco smoke. There is also scientific evidence that smoking marijuana may be associated with increased abnormalities in some of the cells in the body, including precancerous changes in the lungs.


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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:39 PM

Wait, what? Inhaling any burning plant is going to increase cancer risk.


Tobacco is a much stronger carcinogen. Chewing it in your mouth can give you cancer.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:40 PM

However, second hand marijuana smoke doesn't give you cancer.

Why should public display of marijuana use be illegal? To set an example to your children?


And there's no such thing as 2nd hand liquor.

I don't know, but why is public alcohol use illegal? That's the reason why Marijuana use in public would be illegal.

Really, there will be a large spike of businesses like the vapour lounge (except now selling Marijuana) in any place that legalized Marijuana, so it won't really be an issue not being able to smoke it in public.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:43 PM

Wait, what? Inhaling any burning plant is going to increase cancer risk.

From the Canadian Cancer Society:
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Is there ANY known case of cancer from marijuana use?

The keyword in that article is "may".
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:45 PM

Tobacco is a much stronger carcinogen. Chewing it in your mouth can give you cancer.

I don't think there have been enough studies on the topic to make that judgement. Even if so, it being the lesser of two evils doesn't mean that allowing second hand smoke is the right thing to do.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:50 PM

Is there ANY known case of cancer from marijuana use?

The keyword in that article is "may".

A few decades ago, you could make the same argument for tobacco. Scientists are very conservative when it comes to making conclusions. The fact remains that we have a substance with proven carcinogens and a correlation to increased cancer risk. To ignore that because the research hasn't been as rigorous as tobacco research is just burying your head in the sand.
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