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Posted 07 November 2012 - 03:03 PM

I wish they enforced public urination laws at the pool I work at.
It's disgusting.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 03:52 PM

Sometimes I wish there were countermeasure laws in place that allowed a judge to impose personal fines on police who waste the court's time and money if they are found to be egregiously misusing their power.

I'm sure the officer in question wouldn't issue this ticket if he felt it could take a bite out of his wallet if a judge found it frivolous.
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Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:07 PM

Guaranteed the cop was jealous of the endowment of the little tike and felt his manhood was forever tarnished. There could not be a more appropriate time to say FRAK THE POLICE !!!!!!



Anyone seeing these disgusting public service announcements here in Calgary about city by-laws ? This city is a complete joke now and does not disguise it's blatant attempts at cash grabbing each and every citizen on anything they can fine you for. Basically they are pitting nieghbour against nieghbour wanting us to call in every little so called infraction to gain revenue. FRAK I hate this city with very ounce of my being.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:15 PM

To server and protect!

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Against little boys taking a whiz in their own yard!

More like "to hinder and harass".
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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:07 PM

Good on the cop for cracking down on these criminal masterminds. Public urination is a growing problem and if it doesn't stop, it will ruin our country.
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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:39 PM

When you got to go, you got to go...especially when you're 3.

What a waste of time and tax dollars.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:40 PM

I wish the kid would have pissed on the cop for that kind of fine

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:47 PM

I wish the kid would have pissed on the cop for that kind of fine


BAM! assault on an officer right there
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Posted 07 November 2012 - 11:11 PM

Guaranteed the cop was jealous of the endowment of the little tike and felt his manhood was forever tarnished. There could not be a more appropriate time to say FRAK THE POLICE !!!!!!



Anyone seeing these disgusting public service announcements here in Calgary about city by-laws ? This city is a complete joke now and does not disguise it's blatant attempts at cash grabbing each and every citizen on anything they can fine you for. Basically they are pitting nieghbour against nieghbour wanting us to call in every little so called infraction to gain revenue. FRAK I hate this city with very ounce of my being.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 11:19 PM

I think the thing that's bugging me the most is that it is going to set his potty training back! It is so hard to potty train kids and to scare him over something so stupid is downright mean. Kids don't have good bladder control at that age. He was actually trying to not go in his pull-ups, which is a big accomplishment, actually.
What seriously was going through that police officer's mind?
SHEESH!
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 08:27 AM

Sometimes I wish there were countermeasure laws in place that allowed a judge to impose personal fines on police who waste the court's time and money if they are found to be egregiously misusing their power.

I'm sure the officer in question wouldn't issue this ticket if he felt it could take a bite out of his wallet if a judge found it frivolous.

It's not unheard of for judges to give a police officer a dressing down for bringing cases to court that might be considered frivolous. Hopefully, this is one of those cases.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:09 AM

Sometimes I wish there were countermeasure laws in place that allowed a judge to impose personal fines on police who waste the court's time and money if they are found to be egregiously misusing their power.

I'm sure the officer in question wouldn't issue this ticket if he felt it could take a bite out of his wallet if a judge found it frivolous.


Could I request that you run for some sort of public office? The measure that you speak of is excellent.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 03:52 PM

What's next? A fine for dogs urinating in public?


The kid should've PEEced out of there.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:14 PM

this pisses me off.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 02:09 AM

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PIEDMONT — A police officer who wrote a $2,500 ticket to a mother on a public urination complaint against her 3-year-old son has been fired, City Manager Jim Crosby said Tuesday.
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11/06/2012 Piedmont Police Chief Alex Oblein said Tuesday an officer who ticketed a woman after her 3-year-old son tried to urinate in the family's front yard could...

Crosby said he fired officer Ken Qualls on Friday, following a hearing Nov. 14.

Prosecutors at the Canadian County district attorney's office declined to pursue the case against the mother, Crosby said.

Police Chief Alex Oblein said the ticket was written to the mother for public urination, and the complaint was amended to contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Crosby said Piedmont City Council members received emails about the ticket from as far away as Canada, England and Australia.

“Of course we did receive a lot of notoriety over that,” he said.

Qualls plans to appeal the decision, Crosby said. A hearing will be scheduled before a Piedmont personnel board.

Ken Qualls is 45 years old. Qualls has been in Piedmont over a year and has about 18 years experience in law enforcement, said Police Chief Alex Oblein.

Qualls' attorney Jarrod Leaman said Qualls is a member of the Oklahoma Police Pension and Retirement System and is looking at options to appeal his termination in Piedmont. A hearing has not been set.

Qualls issued the ticket Nov. 4 to Ashley Warden after he saw her son, Dillan, drop his pants in the front yard of the family home at 4505 Ryan Drive.

Crosby said Qualls didn't see the boy urinate in the yard, but reported seeing a teenager in the Warden family lead the boy to a spot in the yard.

Oblein said the ticket given to the mother did not fit the situation. It could have resulted in a fine of up to $2,500, he said.


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Posted 22 November 2012 - 02:29 AM

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 03:37 AM

Suck on that, Qualls.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:49 AM

What's the fine for pinching a loaf?
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 09:39 AM

Severs that ass right, I'd fire him too.

Was it just me or did anybody else read it as, "Police Chief Alex Ovechkin"?

Edited by Gumballthechewy, 22 November 2012 - 09:43 AM.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 01:39 PM

The fired officer has now appealed his termination:

Fired Piedmont police officer Ken Qualls has appealed his termination to the city’s personnel board and a hearing could be scheduled within the month, according to city manager Jim Crosby.


Jerry Dickerson, Patricia Perry and Ronald Moody serve on the board and will hear an appeal from Qualls before meeting in executive session to make a decision. Dickerson said the board has received a letter from Qualls’ attorney and that this will be the first meeting of the personnel board since its appointment in April 2011.

“The board has a hearing and [Qualls] is able to rebut or give his perspective of the action that happened,” Dickerson said. “Then, what we do, after we listen to that viewpoint, we go into executive session and talk it over and then we come out and…write a letter to the city manager giving our perspective.”

Qualls was fired last week after he issued a ticket to the mother of a young boy attempting to urinate in his yard. The ticket was later dismissed and Police Chief Alex Oblein recommended that Qualls be fired, a decision that was upheld by Crosby following a closed-door meeting with the officer last Thursday. http://www.piedmontd...ersonnel-board/


And it sounds like the Piedmont police department has been going through some serious problems with several police chiefs being replaced and complaints by officers about another member who they accuse of spying for the former chief, misconduct and cowardice.

During a time when increased scrutiny has been directed towards the Piedmont Police Department following a controversial ticket, a document has surfaced that shows some officers are concerned with the conduct of one of their own.

On Wednesday, the Piedmont Citizen was provided a copy of a document (view below) signed by seven Piedmont officers expressing their lack of confidence in officer Donald Bruecks. The three-page document outlines several claims of misconduct by Bruecks and was dated June 3, 2012. The document was addressed to Capt. Sterling Markel, who was acting as interim police chief at the time, and City Manager Jim Crosby. The Piedmont Citizen provided a copy to Crosby who said he had never seen it before.

“I find this very concerning,” Crosby said after reviewing the document.

On Thursday, Crosby said he had discussed the document with Markel and Chief Alex Oblein. Oblein said the allegations against Bruecks were made before he arrived as chief and that he has found Bruecks to be a quality officer.

“I didn’t come in here with the agenda that I have to get rid of anybody,” Oblein said. “Everyone has started with a clean slate with me but I’m not being ignorant of what has gone on in the past.”

The surfacing letter comes a week after the police department became the brunt of public outcry over a ticket that was issued to a Piedmont mom when her toddler attempted to urinate in his front yard. Officer Ken Qualls – who is one of the seven officers that signed the vote of no confidence – was suspended after he issued the ticket, which was later dismissed.

Beyond the accusations made in the document, officers have also expressed concern that Bruecks, who was hired during the tenure of Tom Linn as police chief, was brought in to spy on other officers and report his findings to Linn, according to one source with knowledge of the situation. Oblein said he has not seen any behavior from Bruecks that would support that suspicion.

“I found out about [the letter] in August and it gave me a level of awareness of what to watch,” Oblein said. “I haven’t seen any indication that he has done anything other than what is expected of his job.”
Crosby said he found the letter concerning, especially since he never received a copy when it was addressed.

“It allegedly was sent to me, but I never received it,” he said.

Crosby said he has investigated the claims made about Bruecks’ performance and believes appropriate action has been taken.

“I think what this brings to the surface, is with all the things that have gone on at the police department, we have had a complete lack of leadership,” Crosby said. “It’s a problem you have when you have had like nine police chiefs since 2005. You look at that and there is no continuity of leadership to build with the troops and get a hold of the troops. This is a great concern of mine, that we have had such a high turnover.

“It’s my hope that [chief Oblein] will stay awhile and we can work through some of these problems.”

The letter was signed by officers Ken Qualls, Craig Curtner, Jack Neumann, Austin Bolding, Scott Gibbons, Brian Dawson and Tony Jobe.

Click link to view signed letter: Police Document Page 1 Police Document Page 2 Police Document Page 3


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Posted 22 November 2012 - 04:44 PM

I think the kid should be in the next Mio commerical....

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 02:13 PM

I think a warning would be better in this situation.
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 02:24 PM

I think a warning would be better in this situation.

Nope better to fire the idiot police officer.
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