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Canadian Man Going To Jail For Racist Forum Messages

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A Saskatchewan man who refused to stop posting racist messages on websites is going to jail.

On Wednesday, a Federal Court judge sentenced Terry Tremaine of Regina to at least 30 days in jail for acting in contempt of an order of the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal.

Tremaine, a former University of Saskatchewan math instructor, was found in 2007 to have posted messages online that attacked people of various races.

"The theme of Mr. Tremaine's messages was that Jews, blacks and other non-whites are destroying Canada and they should either be deported or segregated," Justice Sean Harrington said.

"They were described as vermin, a disease, parasites, criminals, scoundrels, embezzlers and liars. They were portrayed as dangerous and in some cases intellectually inferior."

Tremaine was ordered to stop posting such messages and when he failed to do so, he was slapped with a contempt order.

In a sentencing decision released Wednesday, Harrington ordered Tremaine to take steps to remove his posting from two websites — Stormfront.org and the National Socialist Party of Canada website.

If Tremaine complies with the order, his jail sentence is 30 days. If he refuses, he faces another six months behind bars, the judge said.

"Mr. Tremaine has clearly intended to flout the law, to demean the Tribunal and this Court," Harrington wrote in his decision, adding that Tremaine apologized at one point, but later recanted.

"I do not expect Mr. Tremaine to apologize," Harrington said. "He is a true believer. He is free to flout the order I am about to issue, but he must remember that freedom has its price."

Tremaine has been in and out of court in Saskatchewan, on matters relating to his online activity, for several years.

In September, a Queen's Bench judge stayed a criminal code charge of promoting hatred, because the case was taking too long to get to trial.

Justice Fred Kovach said the case had been dragging through the courts for more than four years and any trial date would still be several months ahead.

He ruled Tremaine's constitutional right to a trial within a reasonable time had been violated and as a result, the case couldn't go ahead.

At that court proceeding it was learned that Tremaine was living on welfare.

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A woman in Texas was sentenced to life in prision for gluing her childs hand, which got nothing but support around here. I suspect the concensus on this will be the chair.

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Now imagine he gets raped by some big black dude in jail....

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Now imagine he gets raped by some big black dude in jail....

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I don't think uttering racist remarks in public should be worthy of arrest. It's similar to me as swearing. But seeing someone online be held accountable to the rubbish they type is nice. Can't stand people who hide behind a keyboard.

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He is going to jail for what is essentially contempt of court. Under our legal system many quasi-judicial tribunals can file their decisions with a court and they become enforceable as court orders - it is part of the enforcement regime. Breach the filed order and one of the consequences is that you are in contempt of court which can lead to a jail sentence as has happened here.

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I don't think uttering racist remarks in public should be worthy of arrest. It's similar to me as swearing. But seeing someone online be held accountable to the rubbish they type is nice. Can't stand people who hide behind a keyboard.

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Thanks for the info Wet. Are you back for the time being on here?

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Thanks for the info Wet. Are you back for the time being on here?

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He is going to jail for what is essentially contempt of court. Under our legal system many quasi-judicial tribunals can file their decisions with a court and they become enforceable as court orders - it is part of the enforcement regime. Breach the filed order and one of the consequences is that you are in contempt of court which can lead to a jail sentence as has happened here.

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A woman in Texas was sentenced to life in prision for gluing her childs hand, which got nothing but support around here. I suspect the concensus on this will be the chair.

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Swearing in public can result in Criminal Code charges:

175. (1) Every one who

  • (
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    ) not being in a dwelling-house, causes a disturbance in or near a public place,

    • (i) by fighting, screaming, shouting, swearing, singing or using insulting or obscene language,

    • ...

    • is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.

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Since you are a lawyer what is your opinion on judges?

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I have been approached by the police for swearing before (yelling in a joking manner). All they did was take my name down, but yea, they do do that.

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I've also been approached by police for swearing. Refused to give them my name. They just walked away.

Another time my friend was pulled over for too many passengers with his "N"...they tried to take my name as a "party to an offence" but I gave them a fake name.

Watch out, guys...I'm a badass. :bigblush:

EDIT: I do very much respect the police, however.

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It was not a one off incident, he kept doing it, even when told to stop. There is a difference between being an idiot and dropping the "N-bomb" once by accident, and saying an entire race should die, multiple times.

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Ok, a little off topic but back in the day, I thought the Nazis only used the word "Socialist" in their party's name to appeal to the working class and gain popularity, while still holding a deep hatred for socialist and communist ideals.

Am I wrong? If not then why do political parties like the "National Socialist Party of Canada" which contain Nazi-like elements, continue to use the S word? Or are these guys for real insofar as they actually value Socialist ideals?

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I don't know about this. I think even the most despicable opinions should be allowed to be expressed, unless they're direct calls to violent acts.

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That judge needs to stay away from the Rants and Raves section of Craigslist.

There's a bit of a recurring theme.

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Now imagine he gets raped by some big black dude in jail....

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